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Season 1, Episode 10 · 3 years ago

"If Something Happens, It Happens" with Terry Martin - EP #10


This week, Terry "IzzyRock" Martin, host of 'The Gem City Podcast' stops by The Basement Lounge to talk about his love for music and how he refuses to let fear run his life!

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Just go to patreoncom Basement Lounge pod to sign up right away, and now on with the show. Grab a drink, pull up a chair and settle in, because you're in the basement lounge. Hello, everybody, welcome to a brand new episode of the Basement Lounge. This is the cool relaxed space where we have on people from all different circuits of the entertainment world, actors, Comedians, musicians, and today we have got a legend in the local podcasting arena. He is the hosty' such. His podcast is so legendary it's named after the damn city that it's based out of. He's the host of the Gem City podcast. Terry Martin is I rock himself is here. What's up? Body think? Go for that? Of course. I appreciate that. You mean you are the host of the Gem City podcast. You like the Ohio State University, and I can't wait to get into into all that history and of that show with you. But let's let's start off just talking about you. Yeah, buddy, we were talking a little bit of off the mic about, you know, working in radio and how the music industry has changed. How did you first get into into podcasting and broadcasting? So I've always had... interest in talk radio ever since I was young. I remember setting up a boom box and recording whatever was on the radio and then I would try to copy it myself, and then I was going to sign up for International College abroadcasting and my my girlfriend's Dad, at the time discourage me and said how you going to make any money in that? And so I didn't do that. And then fast forward to the mid two thousands and there's this thing called podcasting that's starting to come about. I discovered it through lips and I was I was big into the Christian community at the time and there was a Christian rapper named Kj five to who released a podcast through lips and I don't I don't even know if apple had their podcast at the time. I don't even know if they called it podcast, but I started listening to that and then, once I actually started really getting into podcasting and listening to it, I discovered a show called the mediocre show and a bunch of other shows of the time. There was no Joe Rogan, there was no Adam Carolla, there was no I think Kevin Smith was the only big name that I had heard of at the time and fell in love with the medium because it is as punk rock and diy and everything I loved about media that you could say whatever you want at the time, you could play whatever songs you want and it was really an exploration of people's opinions and if you're at work eight hours a day doing my numbing stuff and you can put headphones on and actually be sitting in a conversation with somebody. That really stimulated my mind of what they were talking about. And over the years, you know, I started listening to them, I think two thousand and seven, and then they're still doing it today, in two thousand and nineteen, I'm friends with them. I have the podcast logo tattooed on me. And back in two thousand and twelve I started doing it myself. I was involved Joe Rogue in the Joe Rogan podcast community. I started listening to him in two thousand and ten and I was on twitter and at that time I could tweet all the people that I knew that listen to the pot Joe Rogan's podcast in one one tweet. I could tag everybody in and we built this community where we would start going to shows and organizing meetups before these comedy shows, because I'm a huge, huge fan of standup comedy, have been since I was young, and in fact, when I was searching for a podcast to listen to, a lot of it had to do like I would search comedians because I knew they're perfect for podcasts and Adam Corolla, start listening to him, and then when Rogan came out, I was just so invested and then he had various comedians come on and then all of a sudden they're playing local and I'm traveling, like to Indianapolis and Columbus and I started my own podcast called tels from the hard side, okay, based on growing up in east Staton, and it's a I took the title from a by I hazard song, yea. And then, because I started doing that podcast and I was already had a community I was involved with online, it was pretty easy for me to gain an audience right away and there wasn't a whole lot of podcasts out as it was. I just had a zoom h four in and some some of Mike's and so it started doing my own podcast and at that time I got I would message comedians on twitter, like Ari Shaffer, who is his big problems these days,...

...and yeah, ghosting people like Burt Kreischer, and I had burt Kreischer. I had a few other people on early on, like with an episode twenty I I had famous comedians on within our community and it was just because I reached out to him. No way do I think that I could do that nowadays. Right those guys are way too big. And so a guy who started gym city podcast named Eric saw that I had some content online and he reach out to me said Hey, I see you rep dating and podcasting. I don't want to step on your toes, but I want to start this. And so I was with him from the very beginning and he was a tumultuous guy. He had he had chaos in his life, relationships and in two thousand and fifteen he went on on a walk about and I haven't talked to him forever and I just took the podcast over and kind of built it to where it is now. And now I own the LLC and I don't really do anything with it because I'm kind of lazy to seek out sponsors that work. I work a lot of hours during the week and I, like part of me, wishes sponsors would come to me, but that's just not how it works. And now it is not thing. I've never heard of any business owner being kind of like, you know, you step up our marketing game. Somebody having my phone, I want to scroll through my podcast. appens right. See these booming. I wish that was the case. Yeah, but so part of me wants to reach out to local businesses to get get them on the podcast, but I really don't want to do that. Like I hate asking for that. It's same as like you're asking for a handout or something. Yes, and I don't. I don't want them to have control over what we say or that fear of, Oh hey, can you not say this on the I don't want that at all. I want to be able to say whatever the fuck I want on the podcast right, talk about whatever I want. And you and I share a lot of similarities with our view of comedy and art, that, especially stand up comedy. Yeah, should be untouchable. It shouldn't be the same pc culture that we have where everybody wants to censor everything. Yeah, just like they did back in the S and s with a a lot of the comedy that was going on then. I get where the heart, where a lot of people are, but it bothers me that a lot of people just so whant to shut people down. I've always you know, Christian Harloff as I'm a big fan of he's out of out in La he's a radio and comedy guy and on something he's been saying a lot lately because it's been coming up so much. Has Been You know, when a comedian is at is at a comedy club or a comedy show, you know they have their right to say or try to make a joke about whatever they want. Now, at the same time it's their job to make sure it's funny. Yeah, I've been to many a show where a guy goes up on stage and tells back to back abortion jokes and they don't work, but he doesn't move on and it's like sooner or later you have to accept the facts. It's not working, buddy, but I do I'd be yeah, I think that. I think the idea and we've seen it. We've seen it lately with the release of joker, where the conversation has been had of is it okay for this movie to be made a release, and that is a that is a dangerous conversation to have. The minute you start talking about controlling creativity, is the death of freedom in my eyes. Yeah, and I get the fear that a lot of people have with a movie like joker. And you know, twenty thirty years ago we didn't hear everybody's voice and opinion and I'm sure people have the same opinions. When it came to movies like natural born killers, sure, which I watched over and over right, I've always been I don't know, growing up in the time that I did and seeing I grew up as a kid on welfare and EA Stayton was very aware of violence and and death from... early age because it was it was my life was kind of chaotic and my older brother, he was sixteen at the time I was five, he was murdered by his uncle and I saw his body being pulled out on on the news, and so I've always had a curiosity of death and violence. Early on in the Internet, I forget what the website was, but you could go and see like live deaths and pictures. You remember what the website I don't, but I knowbercom or something like that. Creepy was up. Girl. Wasn't creepy Pasta, was it now? Wasn't creepy Pasti. I forgot. I know you're talking it. Yeah, I remember when that so, yeah, the morbid curiosity I had for that kind of stuff. Like I remember going to the video store and written like faces of death and movies like that. That now is just so accessible online and I got all that out of my system because I realize I just don't want to see it anymore. And so for me, I appreciate movies like joker because it allows us to question ourselves and our society, and that's why I love movies as it is. Art, movies, music, everything. I love to be able to question why we believe what we believe. The art kind of showcases our society as it is. There's a lot of problems in our society and just shutting things down doesn't doesn't add to the conversation. You're pretty much just stopping people from continuing a conversation. I get people are going to be influenced by certain things that and do crazy things. Every time I go to a movie theater or someplace where there's a lot of people, I always have a fear that something might go down here, but I don't live in fear. I don't allow it to stop me from going to see movies. You know, if something happens, it happens, that's that's life. Yeah, and Actus, I remember that happened when that a couple years ago, when Eagles of death metal we're playing over in Paris and there was a shooting at that concert. I had tickets to a concert in Cleveland like a couple weeks later and my mom kind of tried to, not direct indirectly, persuade me not to go and I was like, I can't just stop living my life because because of one thing, case and point, you know, we had we had the shooting n l Passo and then not even twenty four hours later we had the shooting here in Dayton. Does that mean I stopped going out to bars? Is that me? And I stop trying to enjoy myself? No, because then the people who I mean we hear people say as all time, because then the terrorists win, you know, then the evil people win because they succeeded in controlling our lives and that's not that's not a way to live now and I think anybody who lives in fear is doing themselves a disservice. And sometimes you can't escape it. Sometimes you don't have the people around you to kind of talk you through it and help you understand that you know if something's going to go down it. I mean it seems like a lot because it happens a lot, but if you think of all the people you come across every day. It doesn't happen all that often. There is tons of crazy stuff that happens, depending on the type of people you associate yourself with or who you're around. Crazy Shit happens. I've seen it a ton in my life, but I just refuse to live in fear of going places I want to go, being around people I want to be around. If something happens, that's just that's life. You know, media or could strike, as car crash could happen. Anything is possible. But if you live each day as if like man, this is like I'm enjoying this moment and it's not. It's not easy, but that's really what I try to accomplish.

And so when I go see movies like that or I have listen to music back in the day that people deemed evil or whatever, I just I I refuse to live and their reality of what the world is. I know the world is fucked up place, but it's not fucked up everywhere. Yeah, you know, it's just now we notice it a lot more. Yeah, and I work, I work in news. I work in a new station. Now, trust me, I see it a lot more. You know, I'm I've turned into that guy who, I hear about a shooting happening in my first reaction is now okay, well, now I'm in Mork mode, like it's to me. It's become no longer a Oh, this is horrible, hacking, this happen. is now turned into a I'm going to have to do this paperwork and do this kind of thing with programming and this kind of thing with a new sticker, and and and there's so many different sides to any any incident that happens nowadays. It's not just I mean, obviously the thing that we remember the most is people were hurt, people died, but the moving parts that surround the world. If we start, if we just stopped living our lives and something bad happened, we'd never know about the bad things happening anymore. That's true. People still have to get up, go to work, cover it. We have to continue living our lives, otherwise the world just stops. Yeah, and so for me I really try to push a positive attitude, positive mentality, and it's not easy, especially if you if you work around people are negative or if you have if your mind takes you to negative places. Man, it's so hard to train yourself to get out of that, because we get lost in our thoughts, we get down on ourselves. But if I've really tried, you know, my whole life to try and look on the bright side of every situation and it's a lifelong goal and struggle and I think I've done a good job at that. But sometimes I do question myself and question you know, I have to check myself sometimes. Yeah, because I do get in those spaces and being being a comedian yourself, like part of me gets envious that because I would love to go on stage and tell jokes, but I just, for one I feel like I'm too old and for too I just don't feel like like I feel like that times probably passed and I have too much going on as it is. So when I see, when I go to a comedy club and I hear somebody say a joke that really it goes to super dark places and that if we were just having a caval casual conversation or restaurant, might be like a little off color. But man, why do you, why do you say that? But in a comedy club setting? Dude, I've I've laughed at the darkest humor. Oh yeah, the darkness like I heard you and don talk about on a podcast that, you know, if somebody walked in after the Dayton shootings to while he's and they heard certain things comedians said, they'd like. I can't believe you guys are even talking about this, but that's that's how people like us deal with the darkness. That's how we cope. That's how comedians cope with anything in life. That's how we deal with you know, can I go up on stage right now and tell seven minutes worth the jokes about my shitty love life and things? Absolutely. Is that because I think of particularly funny? No, it actually kind of cuts me to the bone. But that's how ideal yeah, and that's how that's when when I was I was at a town camping when the date and shooting happened and within twenty within not even not even twelve hours of the shooting happening, if you had been in the in the the comedians group chats or the facebook page, you would have seen amaily, everybody's first reaction was, okay, let's start putting together you know, relief effort shows and stuff like that. And it also turned it also in a lot of the writing groups. It was a lot of like hey, guys, tell me if this thing is worth taking it to try it out, and it would be...

...stuff about how they were feeling about the shooting, because that's people. People cope in different ways. You know. Some people cope by painting, you know, smoking, drinking, you know whatever. Comedians, we cope by telling fucked up jokes about fucked up stuff. And podcasters, you know, we cope by sitting down in front of a microphone and talking about it. Yeah, that's how we deal, man. Yes, and sometimes I wish I had like, I think, with Jim City podcast, I've set up where I talked to certain people, but sometimes, man, it's just nice to get on a podcast and just have a conversation and no agenda, just let's talk it out, let's let's flesh it out, and those have been really valuable at times. But I don't think I do it enough anymore. I think we're constantly on a schedule and constantly on a agenda to put certain things out that sometimes I don't get to get in there and just have fun. Let's talk about the gem city podcast now that without it we're there and then, yeah, that's what we love with at the top. You know you you've been on the show since two thousand and twelve. You said two thousand and thirteen, doesn't I posted my first episode it was December two thousand and thirteen, and then the idea for me was to cover the music scene, and so I started getting to know the music scene and really doing a lot of research and I really have the freedom to do whatever I wanted and I had an idea for a story teller show, to interview bands or rappers or anybody making music and then add four of their songs. And it's changed throughout the years where I also do podcasters. In fact, if you don't mind, I'll put this on Jim City podcast. I would love that. Yeah, be awesome. So this this would be on next week. Sweet and because I do have a love for creativity and for art and constantly seeking out new things, there's never there's never an end to who I want to talk to or who I talked to. So now it's reach to the point where, like we've been doing it for a long time. We we have a certain reputation in the area. People know like it's kind of become an institution and in a certain way, but I'm just a regular dude going to work five days a week and in my spare time scheduling podcast to go and have interviews with people, and I still love it. Dude. I don't make any money, but it still gets me excited, like all day today. I was at work all day today thinking about this conversation. Yeah, because I was excited to come and talk to you, excited to be on a podcast, and it's like it's like, oh, that's that spark. Like I talked to the I talked about this before. Pod Fade. HMM, any podcaster who has done podcasts, at some point, you do it long enough, you get pod fade where you're like, why the fuck am I still doing this? Oh yeah, like, like what's the purpose of me even do it? Like I don't really have a goal to make money. Be Nice, but sure, I just don't have that mentality. I like, m I just going to continue to do this just to do it, and then then it will hit me where I'll have a conversation and it just refuels me to go on for a while and because I'm at the point where I don't like, how much longer do I keep doing this? How much time. Do I keep investing in it? Like, do I want to do something else? I flirted with the idea of ending Jim City podcast at episode nine hundred and thirty seven, because it's the that's because the area code. Yeah, and that still might happen with like we're at seven hundred and eighty or seven hundred, somewhere around there like that. Yeah, and...

...we released three episodes a week. So it's getting to the point where maybe that might happen, but who knows? I I know it's talk about with the put the pod fake thing. You know, I'll it's no secret. You know, I was running a whole network up until earlier this year and I chose to end it and switch over to do in this show for that exact reason. I'd been doing the network for seven years and just it was doing the same thing year after year and nothing was changing and I fell backed into a corner and it just stop being fun. Yeah, that's when, when it stops being fun, that's when you really should take it look at and go what, why are you doing it? Like I was, I would be at work dreading going home because I knew I had to sit down and like prep the next day shows. Yes, and it's like when I'm at when I'm more when I would prefer to be at my nine hundred and twenty five, then at home uploading an mpthree on to a website, there's there's a problem. Yeah, and so that's when I was like, it's time for me to sometimes you just gotta Change, even if it's a little bit. Yeah, and it's okay, like it's totally okay to stop doing things that you don't want to do anymore and find something new to do, like if you feel stuck in whether it's a band or whether. I mean, I work with people who are in relationships and I personally love the relationship I am I'm in, but hearing some of my co workers in their relationships, like why are you still in that relationship? And it's that, yeah, need to kind of I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. They stay, I think. I think they steak as one. I think we all know dating sucks. The dating process is awful, but it's that. I think. I think, no matter how much somebody says it's not true, we all, deep down have a fear of change. It's true. We all, we all hate change. We get comfortable in a routine. Ending a relationship, no matter how frustrating it is, that's a change, that's a that's a break in the routine and that that's scary. Yeah, we like knowing, we like knowing what's going to happen the next day. Yeah, and also, again, dating sucks. The dating. Being in a relationships fine, it's the dating process that's that's the worst. Yeah, that's especially nowadays. I met my wife when she was seventeen and I was eighteen and we started dating in one thousand nine hundred and ninety two. Who got married? One thousand nine hundred and ninety six, Jeez. And so I have no idea what what this life would be like in in the modern work like. I'm curious about it just because I see my friends and the there wasn't tender when I was, when I was dating, and at this point in my life I don't ever see myself dating, but part you know, you're always curious about what it would be like and it's scary, dude, scared. I hate it. Being a single in two thousand and nineteen is not fun at all. How so big music, your big music, Guy, huge. I'm a big music guy. Yeah, you're talking about seeing the black he's the other day. This has been my year off from going. I'm usually a concert junkie. If there's there's one within five hours on there see and I haven't been, okay, for like a decade. I raised kids, okay, and didn't you? I have a twenty year old and a sixteen year old, and so I didn't spend a whole lot going to shows. I really stayed home in my schedule was so wacky at my other job and I started a new job back in May and going to a lot of local shows and seeing a lot of local shows. It's great. I love supporting the local music scene, but there was certain bands or certain artists that are on my bucket list that when you go see them, it reinvigorates me and the whole process, although now I do...

...find myself thinking like man, should I beat the rush? Right, sure, I hear up. So part of me doesn't enjoy like the how expensive the concert TICKETSAR. I when I see empty seats in the place. The logistics part of it makes me worry, like, well, how come they didn't sell as many? Yeah, I don't want to give a fuck about that shit. I would just want to go and I know so. I always I hate when when you're when you've done the business side of it and then you go to the show and you start seeing it through the business eyes and it's like, I wonder how many work really good? No, no, no, no, focus. Yeah, yeah, and that's with like comedy shows, that's with, you know, music. I love to go for an event and I really been open myself up to going, going to see shows that normally I wouldn't go to, like during the week. I would never have went to see a show and then went to work the next day. It just drains me. And a friend of mine had tickets in Columbus to go see group called the devil makes three, which is like, I don't know, they're like an Americana rockabilly kind of thing, really great band that I had never heard of. went seeing him a live loved him and and then I became a huge fan. But I love live music, have since I was a kid. I've slept outside for concert tickets back when that was the thing. She's I have tickets for tool next month. Do you really yeah, dude, I was at work. I was I had the apt all set and I was ready to pay whatever, because tools one of those bands that people either love or they hate. There's not a whole lot of in between where people are like I kind of like them. I'm in I'm in the Hay category. Are you not a fan? So, and it's one of those. I've listened. I've listened and I think mostly it's Maynor James Keen, and I have a problem. I get that. Like, as I've I used to work in rock radio. I've heard tool, I've heard perfect circle, I've heard post offer. Don't like manner James Keen and I met him once. Keep my opinions to myself, but I get the love for tool. Yeah, I do. Guess. It's not like there's some music I listen to that's really popular and I'm like, I don't get it. I don't get people lay the tool. I get it. Yeah, it doesn't. Doesn't sit with me. Yeah, Dude, I so I saw them at Lallapaluza. I think it was ninety three. They were on the second stay wow out in the daylight on the opiate tour. He still had a long Mohawk. I saw them again at I didn't go to the heir arena show. It's one of my biggest regrets. I waited outside for concert tickets for their September twelve show at an under center. Slept outside. That got canceled because of the terrorist attacks for nine hundred and eleven. Oh, I saw him and Cincinnati. I saw him in Knoxville, Tennessee. Drove five hours saw him as fest night. Like I've put a lot of time, but I haven't seen him in years and so I want to be able to see them one more time because I don't know, it's one of those bands where at any point they could scope, wow, we're done touring. Yeah, because they cause they it. This is there. This is the first time they've put in music out and what thirteen years? Yeah, and it's a different climate than when they started, for sure, and it's nice to see a lot of new people getting into him. But maynard is one of those people that he's kind of an enigma and I've always appreciated his his genius, but also understand that if you casually knew him, he could probably rub you the wrong way and really turn come across as an asshole. But I also don't have a bunch of tool fans who as a tool fan. Yeah, I know some other tool fans are unbearable to be. I'm gonna Vengere Sevenfold Fan. Trust me, you know I am. I am all too aware of how unbearable fan basis can be, because...

I find myself more often than not saying sorry for being a fan of these guys everybody. I saw them headline a show one time and the fans are being thuchebags that I was just kind of like, this is why, this is why people don't like us. Yeah, yeah, it's it so like with music, man, I still love to hear new music. I work with a kid now, a kid, he's not a kid. I'll work with a guy now who is a musician and he's into like his spectrum of music is literally everything. He'll put on J pop, which I didn't really know what that was until just recently, and it sounds it's it sounds like video game music. It. Yeah, yeah, you know, Japanese video game music, which I enjoy. Video game into it, but it's I'm like, man, so there's sometimes where he'll listen to something and I am I how does somebody like actually enjoy this? He listened to some edim music that has computer like the computers, sounds that I don't want to hear as enjoyment, like it's it's tortured to kind of listen to. It's one of those triggers that you hear and you're like man, that texture just does not appeal to me and he loves it and I just don't get it. I'm pretty open minded with music. I mean, like I love everything from from you know, Cannibal Corpse, Elton John. You know, I just saw an advert where it's going to be Chris Stapleton, Sheryl Crowe and Willie Nelson. I've had the kind of the Rose Music Center and I'm like Yes, I want to go to that. Yeah, but there's there's some stuff that I just like. A lot of the EDM and trance and all that, I just I just can't. I've tried. It's like I will give anything a try. I will never say I don't like something I've never experienced. But my friends have been trying to get me into this band called baby metal. Yeah, my friends have been trying for years to get me into this and I'm just it doesn't do anything for me because it's that weird blend of jpop and, I guess metal. I'm a pretty diehard metal fan, but I D don't get it. Yeah, I don't get it, but you know, I still consider Judas priests the greatest heavy metal band of all time. Yeah, man, well, and even even metal, like I was the biggest metal head back in the day growing up. Salt Pantara thirty times. Oh, I've seen slayers, so all the greats, and at the Times you just priest Black Sabbath. And then at some point, and I think it, I think it was in the early s, I just stopped really following anything new that came out. And now I'm to the point where I really have to be in a mood to listen to something and if I hear somebody like screaming at me like oftentimes, I realize, like man, I'm getting older here and that angst is not in me anymore and I I need to if something's like to do me. makes me feel kind of depressed sometimes, I think. And I think the early s were kind of one of the worst, one of the best and worst eras for heavy metal in general, because for about five or seven years and the S, that's all that was coming out and metal was stuff like that. Now I like a lot of stuff like that. Yeah, but that was all that was coming out. You know. You know even because that was also around the time that, you know, even the older classic bands weren't. Weren't. We're trying to change and evolved and as a result we got saying anger. That happened and we let that happen. Yeah, metal in the early toot that. I think. Now it's kind of circling back, I think. I think the band, I think songwriting for metal especially has come a long way. They've realized they can do a lot more with it rather than just really loud anks, which is what it was for the longest time. Yeah,...

...we're also seeing the resurgence of a lot older bands like Judas priests put out their new album last year and damn if it didn't take over the world when it came out. And METALLICA same thing. They're putting new stuff out. Mega that's putting new like all these older bands or come back, and even the newer bands are kind of going back our kind of reapproaching the music they've been putting out and taking a bigger influence from some of those earlier acts. Yeah, as I've gotten older. I hated country growing up. Yeah, but I I start like outlaw country was something that I kind of always enjoyed, Johnny cash, things like that and just as I get older, man certain artist. I don't know if it's because my family is from Appalachia and that's kind of, you know, it's kind of in me, is to hear bluegrass and when I was younger did not like it at all and now I it's a vibe. I here and I'm like, I kind of dig that. So I'm a big I'm a big I'm still not a huge country fan, but I love Chris Stapleton. Yeah, because he's got that blue because I'm a big blues fan. Yes, I love the blue. Was a little would be be Kaing as my man, but but he's got that nice blend of blues and country going on. And I remember one he when he first came out. I had just started working at the TV station and we aired this the country music awards and his first album had just come out and he like clean house at the awards. He won like everything and everybody thought it was a fluke. Oh he'll never do this again because here, because all the country stars nowadays are these, you know, these jabroni looking dudes, and it's all a lot of it sounds the same. I'm sorry, but a lot of it sounds the same. And so he put out another album. They're like, oh, he can't do it again, it was a fluke. And he did it again. And because in he's just this big country redneck looking motherfucker in the hat and the long coat and the dirty hair and but I think people are but there's an honesty to the music that he's writing. Yeah, there's that. There's a there's a feels genuine. It doesn't feel manufactured. Yeah, a lot of music does nowadays. Well, and I do not like pop country like let me state that. No, it's one of my least favorite sounds. Whenever I heard here Protud on, and it's that particular sound instantly turns me off. But there's artist who are in the same vein as Johnny Cash, like Sturgill Simpson, like Chris Stapleton. We're sturgil like. I saw him on Joe Rogans podcast, went and checked out his music and I've seen him live a couple times. Dude, I get chills when I hear him play. Or when I hear new music. And then he released a new album recently called sound and fury. That also has an anime on Netflix where it's the soundtrack to the album, and then all these great anime artist from Japan created this movie. Did the fuck up? No, dude, it's it's on Netflix and he compared it to its this generations, like the wall or heavy metal or something like that, where it's animation and music. And I'm not a huge anime fan, but my wife and I watch this whole thing because we love his music and his music is like their synthesizers down it's it's gone into realms that other country music never went into and he still got the twiny voice. But Holy Shit, dude, that's the kind of music that nowadays that really gets to my heart and I listened to it a lot. That in certain hiphop. A lot of popular hip hop I don't enjoy, but some like kindrick Lamar when he came out the album, damn, listen to that over and over, and so I need to get back into it. I haven't really taken an honest because I was, I got a big old school hip hop fan, but a lot of the stuff like from wh I was going up in middle and high school, you know, in the early to early to mid...

...two thousand I just did not care for yeah, me neither. And I haven't really taken an honest look back at where it's at nowadays. But then then again, I see some of the stuff that gets, you know, shows up in the news or on the radio on so what I'm just kind of like, I'm good. Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, a lot, and I realize a lot of that music is not for me. Yeah, it's just not for me, and but I can appreciate it if somebody could like run the jewels is a is a group I would recommend that you check out if you're trying to get into old school. Run the jewels is a is a group based out of Atlanta, and killer Mike, you might have heard of him. He's one of the guys in the group, and they're they're great. I got I kind of just wish DJ Khalid would go away. He's ruined a lot of music, like the others, and Dj Tags, which I get. I've had people explain to me that they put those on there because Dj's weren't getting the credit that the MC's were. Getting, but when I hear it and it's the same fucking thing over over in eat songs, makes me hate it. I don't need this obnoxious dude stand on stage with Nicki minaj shouting random wikipedia facts about the album into a microphone. Now, I don't need that. I can google it myself. I just picked him standing there on stage with his phone's reading off the WIKIPEDIA page. It's a number five album and Guanahara produce. But I don't care, I don't. And also, Djit cowes kind of a shitty even being. But I'm sorry to get a little dirty here. What kind of guy openly says on the radio like no, I don't go down on women, but I expect him to go down on me. Yeah, I first that he lost all respect for me there. Yeah, Dude, come on. Yeah, and I think people who were fans of his and am heard that. It's like, come on, dude, this is two thousand and nineteen. Sure the love, man, come on, I don't know, but it's like prince used to say, a pleasure be gets pleasure. That's right, that's right. Yeah, man, I I you know, even even being as old as I am now and realizing that music is still as important to me as as when I was younger, except I don't have to go buy an a whole album and has one good song and I spent fifteen, fifteen dollars on it. Yeah, I know that streaming and pirrating kind of ruin the music industry little. Holy Shit, dude, there's when like if you told me, hey, you need to check this out and I'm able to pour up on my phone and listen to it whenever. Like the amount of artists that are out there now making great music. You just gotta find them. You got a dig. There's there's two things I've really become a recent big fan of. Will Not one as band camp. Yeah, Band camp. I used to be used to do a music show with my buddy Robert at where we would just go find stuff on band camp and just gush about at these low level, independently produced albums, all different genres. You could just get online and stream it and check it out, and stuff that you know was really good wasn't getting the attention it may be deserved. And I got to be honest, I I started subscribing to the to the apple music thing. Yeah, ten bucks a month, but I can go check out anything I want that's on on itunes and just listen to it. And honestly, I've been a lot of artists and bands that I had kind of stopped buying because I got tired of. Yeah, he said, paying fifteen bucks for an entire album and listening to two songs on it. I can go find stuff now that maybe I didn't give the time of day before that I wouldn't have given the time of day to now, and just, yeah, it's so easy to find new music nowadays. Yeah, and that's the that's it's just the best. I love it. I love that stuff. Yeah, it's, you know, every every Wednesday at so I try to keep up on WHO's releasing albums or who's releasing music in the Dayton area and then...

...we showcase that every Wednesday, if we're not talking to a podcaster. And the quality of music that Dayton is producing right now is on par with some of the greatest music I've ever heard in my life and music that, when you hear it, you wonder why it's not being pushed out there more. Oh yeah, and that really that's the secret as to why I do what I do is in hopes that somebody hears it and goes, man, I should use that for my movie man, I should put that in my TV show man. Let me play this for my friends when we're sitting around a fire and just having fun and just chatting in this is our background music and it turns into something that people really enjoy. That's for me. That's the love of music that I'm given back to Dayton is like, people need to hear this stuff. You know, it goes back to just wanting to showcase, W wanting to share music when I was younger, and now I get the chance to do it, except through podcasts. Hey, everybody, I just wanted to take a moment to interrupt the show and give a very special shout out to the people who support this show every month on patreon. I want to shout out Whitney Latin, Jody McDermott and my mother, Melissa Shay, do every single month help support this show and if you want to be one of those awesome people, all you got to do is go to patreoncom Basement Lounge pod and join the one dollar tier. You'll get shouted out on the air, get your name listed in the description, you get early access to all these shows commercial free through our Patreot ur SS feed and so many other cool rewards. Once again, go to Patreoncom Basement Lounge pod, join the onesollar tier and help support the show. Speaking of the show, let's get back to them. As I was managing, because I've only lived here for five years, and I was managing a band around town for a little while and that was probably the best way I had to really get into the local music scene, was because I would just go with them to all their shows and all these bands they were getting booked with. And there's people you know. We told everyone talks about New York and La but man, the music scene in Ohio in general is just something special. This is such a music state. You go to Columbus, you go to you go to Cincinnati, but here in Dayton especially, there's just such an old classic love for music in this town. Yeah, people love music and I've talked to enough people to realize it's not like this everywhere, because we can go out on any weekend night to one of the various clubs in the area you're going to hear original music by somebody who also works in nine to five job and like this is their passion, but if you hear their album and it's easier to make music now and it's more accessible, that's the quality is so good. Like when I tell you that we're going to look back on this twenty, thirty years from now and realize like, the music being made is astounding and in great and it's not hyperbole when I when I say it, it's not because I like these bands and I know them personally. When I hear certain music, man, I'm like, Dude, if I didn't know this band, I would be listening to this all the time. Hell Yeah, man, yeah, that's yeah, I love you. Know, we've had we've had Brandon Barry on here. Love that dude. Love Random Barry Lat paints plats so good he'll he's coming back in a few weeks. Spoiler alert. We've had mariah haven on here. If you haven't checked out Mariah shows,...

...if you know Mariah Dude, her voice, ah, is unlike any voice. When you hear her, not only on an album, but when you hear her live, it you realize that some people just have a skill and a talent and have their own unique voice that I wish everybody could hear. She is she is something else. I brought her in. This is back on the old show just I was trying to I was trying to experiment with different kinds of guests and not having just comedians on every time, and I knew that she wrote funny songs. I was like okay, kind of easy transition and she brought her guitar in here and she we went, I would just setting up all the mics and just had her do like a little private concert for me here in the studio and it I was floored. Yeah, I was. It was so good. Yes, she's easily one of the best vocalist in the area. Like a unique sound and she she gets the she's she has a comedian sensibility. She she's done some like she gets bored and creates these characters and make I love it. Yeah, it's part of me that's like, you know, it's like the female version of will or Walker Jr. Yeah, and I like she's the person that I wish more people could hear. I wish you played in big in front of big crowds. Yeah, like, if I had more time in my life, I would love to manage and push some of these artists. I just I don't have it. I and that's and like the podcast now, that's how it originally started out, was as an independent record label doing that kind of thing, and I love doing that stuff, but it is a full hits, a full time commitment. Yeah, I don't have I don't have that kind of time now. Yeah, like just being it. But yeah, like they're there are days I do miss like like managing talent and promoting events and you know, because that's kind of how I got my start in all this. But at the same time now and nowadays, you know, not just recording music is gotten easier. I mean you can record music on your own your ipad nowadays, but just there's so many tools out there for musicians to manage their own stuff that it's the industry itselfish just an in, isn't? Isn't this weird state of flux right now, especially considering the music and radio industries for years kind of fought against a lot of that. Yeah, when I was working in radio was when stuff like Hulu was first coming about, Netflix was first coming about, and TV and movies and even news was kind of leaning into it and kind of rolling with it and adapting with the Times. But the music industry and the radio industry, which are both kind of two sides of the same coin. They resisted and now they're trying to get caught up and you know, you can only fight change for so long and now they're they're a little behind. There there are there are some there's have been some leaps and bounds, but you know, it's it's just it's an ever it's ever changing nowadays. Man. Yeah, it's it's a weird time period, but and I'm so glad, like a lot of people have, like they complain about the time that they live in, but there's so much that I love about the time that we live in. Oh Yeah, the fact that I can, you know, on my phone I can pull up a conversation between Elon Musk and Droe, Joe Rogan, and here these two people who I wouldn't have heard of back in the day. You wouldn't. It would have been totally overproduced. It wouldn't have been as as raw as it is. I would have been it would have been it would have been the scene in Wayne's world where they build the the build the big white set and sitting down reading off q cards. Yeah, horrible. It just it yeah, there's there's a rawness and a realness to like what we do. Yeah, that it whenever you like. The part of the reason that Mark Marin's WTF podcast is so popular it's because he's getting Oscar winning actors and the...

President of the United States and big personalities and he's making them just seem like regular people. Yeah, when he when he has, you know, Jennifer Lawrence come on, or will our net you know, just come on and just just talk like, you know, talk about why he smokes the kind of cigarettes that he does. Yes, it makes it makes people relatable and it may it just it makes it reminds you that these people are people. Yeah, and that's true. It's the beauty of what we do is we bring some some realism into the world, I think. Yeah, and you know, I think. I think being able to have people sit in on conversations and become aware of certain things that they wouldn't have been aware of. The world is kind of chaotic right now with information and not knowing what to believe or who to believe. Our President tweets out the weirdest stuff in but he has such a vast knowledge and his infinite wisdom. Oh my goodness, dude, he's was the weird I don't get political on this show. That tweet made me laugh my ass off so hard. I I was like, this is guy, who are those fake twitter handles? Yeah, this is the this is the fake trump twitter right now. He actually said that. It's weird, like where are we in life? where? Like, because I try to put myself back, like could you imagine Clinton doing that? Or could you imagine Reagan doing it, or even Obama? Yeah, like, I could never imagine anybody tweeting that and then somebody going yeah, this is yeah, that's okay. Like I I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that we live in a world where twitter, twitter is a seriously discussed topic on national news, like at Nope, no point anymore do we hear such and such politician said in an interview or spoke at this as they say. Well, today Senator Lindsay Graham tweeted, and that is a sentence I don't like hearing on that that I'll never get used to hearing because the word tweet in it it itself is so dumb. Yeah, because because I hear Tweet, I think little yellow bird getting chased by a cartoon cat and just for it, for something as stupidly named is twitter to be taken so seriously nowadays. It's weird. Is just it's my it's bizarre, yeah, but but I love it. Oh, it's the best I would have other belove like. And I've kind of moved away from politics as well, because it's, for one, it's too divisive and for too I don't really know. Like I'm a dude who grow up and he's Dayton. I don't have a whole lot of education. I have a lot of knowledge that I've gained over the years, but sometimes I just feel like I don't I don't know, like I don't really understand policy and I don't understand philosophy. There's a lot of people smart, way smarter than I am at certain things, but I just know, just as an observer and as somebody who's kind of watching things go on, that like we're kind of all being taken on our ride of this red team and blue team and we're pitting against one another. But it's way, it's gray. It's a lot of gray area and if you get one on one with somebody and they don't have all the talking points that they've heard on all the news sites or all the places where they go and get their information. Bubble, you know, going, yeah, that's what I believe. You find a lot more gray area and if you actually talk to people without name calling, you find that we're all kind of just figuring this thing out and we're hoping this thing doesn't fall apart and that, you know, things are going to be better for our for our future generations,...

...than they were for us, and at this point I don't know if that's the case. I Have Long said that, like the simple the mere existence of political parties to me is is ridiculous. The fact that we feel the need to limit because because you find me one person who, word for word, excuse me, if you could print out the list of everything that a political party stands for, bring me somewhere from that party, say so you're telling me that you believe every single one of these things. There's not a single thing on this list you disagree with. I like to find you one of those. Find Me One person you legitimately believes it's you know, there's always going to be at least one of those things or somebody goes well, that one it's like, see, that's that's the problem with trying to shoe horn everything into either you're either this or this. We always say there's nothing in the world's black and white. Will Not everything is red or blue. Yeah, sometimes she's purple. Y'All. Okay, I I there. I have beliefs that are probably fairly conservative. I have a lot that are pretty fairly liberal. I'm just, I'm just me. I believe what I believe. That's it, man. I got to a point a few months ago I had to I had to ditch social media for a while, which is probably a healthy thing. And you know what it was because, I mean, I'm known as kind of social media king around all my mostly because, like, because from working in entertainment and music, I was trying to stay up on it for for marketing and stuff like that. And how can I make this a tool? But I usually want it was falling down rabbit holes. Yeah, and I found myself one day and it was it was like a week or two after the date and shooting, and I was just like, I was just I was always angry. I found myself scrolling angrily nonstop through APPS and fighting with people online and I finally just snaw apped and I took all the apps off my phone for about two weeks and just kind of got away from it at all, and not only was I infinitely more productive, I was just in a better mood. Yeah, it's like now I'm back on, but I really like I don't scroll anymore. I turned off notifications. I really only get on to like I don't do anything. I don't part. They can politics anymore. Yeah, I don't comment on something unless I have something. I mean, I'm a kind of back to the whole of I don't eything Nice to say. I don't say anything at all. That's it, man. And even with politics, man, I I'm conscious of the political post I make, not only because I'm I'm friends and acquaintances with so many different people's from so many different perspective. I know we have burned out of politics, so I really try not to share too much online. I'm really an observer at this point, but there is part of me that it's like, you know, I appreciate people who get into the conversation, but it just goes down this rabbit hole of name calling and you know, none of us really no, like a lot of there's obviously people who went to school for politics, but a lot of us are just regular people who have grown up in this society that we were happen to be born in, lucky enough to be born in, and we were born in a space where we're kind of taking what previous generations Gabas and here we are today and it's all been twisted. The propaganda has been twisted to make you hate this person or that person based on what they believe, and some of it is pretty detestable. Some of some of the things that people stand for a pretty detestable. But if you actually have a conversation with somebody and get to the nitty gritty, like I work with a dude who is a is an admitted communist and I've never found myself arguing conservative talking points where I was presenting, because he's a dude who doesn't believe people should have to work.

He thinks it's okay to hit people in the faces with bike locks and okay, I'm like, dude, like do you realize, like, well, let's take let's take your philosophy to the empt degree and see, and it always ends up. We end up. Well, I don't want to talk about this anymore because we always in because I'm the type person. If you believe in something, man, let's let's let's explore this idea, let's take it, and it ends up because I do love, part of me loves to debate and I love to kind of get to know why people believe what they believe. So we end up going down these rabbit holes where either the person gets so frustrated with me or we just the relationship gets shaky. So I really have to watch myself with that stuff. But if I'm at work for eight hours a day and I'm you know, you're wanting to talk about something in this person like he's passionate about politics, Nicks, well, let's talk about it and I I will go home and go I can't believe that. I'm are you in conservative talk, because I lean left, but I definitely over the years I've definitely found myself realize that. You know, I think for me it's it's I do lean left, but as I've gotten older I realized people say we maybe you're getting more in service. I think I'm getting more conservative. I think I'm just not as left. It's more of I'm just I'm more I think as you get older you start to middle out. Yeah, it's like it's like it's like a it's like a metronome. It's like you're yeah, right, your left, you're but eventually you just kind of even out. That's true. And and because you realize, because you realize, like I said, not everything, not everything, is an absolute no, it's something is, you know, lame as a rob it. Did he break the law? Yeah, but why did he break the law? Yeah, stuff like that. So I didn't finish law school. You going to be a lawyer, you got to believe in the black and the white. And I don't know too much great, too much gray man, who was great, fucking hell man. Talk to you all. Goddamn back, I know it is the best. I've got to have you back on here, dude, anytime. And so for my from my listener for Jim City podcast. Listens. Let people know where they can find your stuff. Shit, okay. Well, if you're listening to us on the Gym City podcast, you can check us out. You can check my website. Is Mike Shay comedycom the podcast feed of the basement lounge is available on anchor apple podcast. If it's a podcast platform or available there. We drop this show every Friday. We've got other shows we drop every couple of weeks or just whenever the hell. We do movie reviews as a mental health show, stuff like that. You can always find me on twitter at Mike Shay comedy. The show is on Instagram at Basement Lounge pod. We are all over the place. So and I do a lot of stuff. I do a lot. I'm if you tweet me, I will respond within within a couple minutes. It's I yeah, I'm easy to interact with, but for you, Terry Martin is Iroq, the host of the Gym City podcast. Where can they find you? I rarely ever use twitter for my own personal reasons anymore, but you can follow me on there at the asy rock. In fact most of my social medias are under the asy rock, but I am on facebook under Terry Issy Rock Martin. I do run Jim City podcast social media feed. So followed Jim City podcast and you know, if you like what we're doing, let us know, let somebody know. I know a lot of us are consumers. We consume. You rarely ever let a person know that you enjoy what they're doing. I know I'm that way. But every so often, if you do appreciate what somebody saying, reach out to them, especially a podcast. Reach out to them and say, man, I really either I didn't like what you said or I like what you said,...

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