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Season 1, Episode 24 · 1 year ago

My Favorite Famous Dead Person - EP #24

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This week, I'm telling you about my favorite famous dead person, and why my reasons for being a fan aren't what you think they might be.


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This person is a writer was a writer. However, you want to lookat it. I very influential in a lot of the thingsthat I myself have created. Very influential, a lot of the thingsthat I'm a fan of and just all in all kind of afascinating person to read up on because every time I read up on thisperson, I learn a little bit more about Hem than I didn't know the first timeand the person that I'm talking about is Edgar Allen. Po now I know it'sprobably not a huge surprise. Oh go figure the guy who lekes heavy metalsinto EAD, growl and Poe 'cause he's all about that Goth Shit and all thatthat's true, like the Gothic, imagery and kind of just that general. You know:darkness, that's associated with e Growand Po is what initially got meinterested in. You know. I went through a golf, the Goth emo phase in highschool, who among us didn't and H. Just you know, that's initially whatgot me into, and you know of course, obviously, in middle and high school,you have that required. Reading of stuff, like a telltale heart, an theCaska Montiato, which I actually wrote like a really lengthy research paperabout for a class that took in college and it's yea H. His work speaks for itself, it'screative, it's dark, it's menacing, it's different, but that's not why Ed Garallan Po is myfavorite famous dead person and the reasons I'm going to give you areactually probably something you none of you really knew. I I myself didn't knowthis until a couple of years ago and it it took a lot more research to reallyuncover what this meant. But the main reason I am such a fan of Edgar AllanPo is because believe it or not.EDGARALLEN PO was America's first professional writer. Now I know thatsounds a little off, but but bear with me Ecause, I'm going to explain what Imean. Obviously, there were writers longbefore Redgr Allenpo that that goes to that thing, but he was the firstprofessional writer and what that means is. He was the first person in theUnited States to make a living, not a wealthy living, but a livingentirely from writing. Now it's in order its that really established thatwe got to talk about like how how things were back then and how thingsare now so nowadays, let's say you become a published writer. Let's say Iwere to finish a novel and have it published and go into circulation. Well,you know, I obviously get money from the publisher for, for you know, th.They payng me to write the book and to give they pay me for the books Hor.They can publish it and distribute it, but thereis also, you know royalties,we get we I would get from from the book, and that basically means that youknow the once. The money comes from all the bookstores and gets back to thepublisher. I would get a royalties a...

...cut basically of the money made fromthose sales and that's how writers kind of make regular paychecks as theypublish a book and they get royalties musicians, get the same too may samething too. Musicians get royalty checks from the music that they releasethrough their record labels. They get a cut of what comes back. So that's how writers make a lot oftheir money, there's the finders fees from publishers, there's the initialpublishing fees and then there's the royalty checks, and you know theirbooks go out all over the world, so they get royalties from where theirbooks are sold over in France or Italy or Spain or Russia, or wherever elsethey're sol. That's where writers get their money from along with you know,other kinds of like sponsorships and you know getting their books, optionedbuy Hollywood and things like that. But that's now that's in twenty twenty!That's how that works. Now back when Edgr Owin Po was writing andeven long beforehand, that's not the way the world worked. There really was there really weren'tprofessional artists back then that wasn't a thing you couldn't make aliving in the arts back then, even to this day it's still pretty hard exceptthere's more ways to do it. But back when agraand Po was writing that wasn'ta thing. Royalty checks weren't a thing mostlybecause there was no way to really track that shit back then. Nowadays, everything you know, you'vegot you've, got the UPC codes and stuff like that and waighs the track.Everything and an a you know: Electronic Digital Systems. It's alltrackable. Nowadays, back of the eighteen hundreds theydidn't have that Shit. You didn't have that Shin and here'sthe way that writing and getting paid to write back then basically worked anyone that we associate with, as as asas as a writer, you know, beat Ralph Waoemerson or Robert Frost, or you knowan you know, Mark Twai and any of those guys all of those guys had other jobs. Youhave to re. Remember that Mark Twain owned owned a like a j likea general store. A lot of them were farmers, storekeepers, shopowners, barbers politicians, T Y, they hadother jobs and then they would do their writing onthe side. They weren't professional writers. Theydid other shit. What made Ed growandpost so unique wasthat he made his entire living from writing. He didn't have other gigs. Nowhe didn't make a wealthy living. I mean the guy basically just made enough money to pay his billsevery month, but that all came from writing now howhe did that, how he was able to accomplish that was. It was a littlecomplicated. He had to get a little...

...creative with it, and this is whatreally speaks to the creative mind that was in Edgar, AL and Po 'cause. He wasable to see a way to do this that nobody else had at that time. 'cause hewas willing to do it so the way it worked was he would writea poem or a short story, and he would have that published inlike the local paper or some local magazine and he'd get paid anywherefrom like five to ten dollars. For each of his publications, now keep in mindback then five or ten dollars was a T. was a nice little chunk of money I meanback, then a dollar was like a lot. If you had a dollar who look out so to getfive or ten dollars, you know a person could pay a lot of their bills with five orten dollars. So he would write a poem or a short story and have it publishedin in a paper, and you get paid for that, and that would be pretty much all themoney he would see for that particular piece of writing Um. It would probablyget circulated to some other publications published in a nationalmagazine. He might on occasion, see a little bit of kickback for that if hewas able to get it published directly, but pretty much once the thing waspublished and he got his his five or ten bucks. That was it. That was allhe'd see. Now back in the day, newspapers werekind of the Um. All in one go to place for your entertainment. You know DITHAV TV didn't have radio, you know it didn't. Have you know mb three players,O. You know you had books and you had newspapers. You basically had thewritten word. That was your entertainment. People would actually go to livetheaters to watch Charles Dickens just tell one of his stories on a stage. Itwasn't even a play. It was just him standing on a stage just verballytelling his stories like that's that's a thing people would go to do. Theywould go to listen to an author tell one of their stories like every year.At Christmas time. Charles Dickens would tell Christmas carol as if he wasjust you know, reading it off the page which he probably was actually doing,and people would pay to go. Watch that so Eddiger Allen. Po realized that, inorder to make Hem living as a wraiter, he just had to write a lot of Shit andwhat it turned into was that he would get paid for anything he had publishedin the newspaper. So in the newspapers they would publish short stories poems,but they would also publish critiques of like plays and other people's poems.So at would happen is egerallan Po would have a poempublished and Ye get paid for that poem and then, in the next edition of thepaper, another local writer would write acritique of that poem or that Short,...

...that short story similar to how we havefilmed reviews nowadays. But somebody would write a critique of Agralen Post story likelet's say, for example, Teltalhart he publishes telltalehart and then somebody in the nexedition topaper, maybe a week later, gives a critique of the telltale heart well that person who wrote thatcritique they got paid for that because they wrote something and it waspublished. So the paper would then pay the person for their critique of aground post story, but would then happened is Edgar. Alen Po himselfwould would clap back he'd fire back with his own rebeau of that critique,or he would publish a crit a critique of that writer's work and they'd Ha. It was KINDOF like theoriginal twitter battle like nowadays you see people Gettin to twitterfeudsand shit ND, getting to co getting the flamoresin the Utu commen section, and this was kind of the original version of that.So what was happening is Edgar. Alan Po would get paid a couple of bucks every time, he'd publish a critique ofsomeone else's work or abottled to someone else's critique. So he wasconstantly picking fights with people through the newspaper through thesecritiques. Just to continue to have stuff to write, he would intentionallylike go after other people's work. He was kind of Addick, ed, Rolin Po waskind of addict. Let's, let's be completely honest about that, but hewould post really like he would seriouslycriticize other people's work just to get them to come back at him,so that he could then go back at them and continue to have it back and forthin their writings so that he was constantly writing things to get paidfor. He actually spent more time publishingcritiques of other People's work that he did publishing his own work, whichis again he was kind of a Dick, but he was getting paid for those critiques.He was getting paid for the things that he did write, and so what would happen is he would write these things. He'd getpaid a couple of bucks for 'EM, and those couple of bucks would get himthrough the month. He found away to make a living justwriting because there were no royalties there.There were no. You know there was no copyright or publishing rates. Hisstuff was getting republished constantly over in France and over inEngland and over in other countries all over the country. He didn't see moneyfor that, though, that's just the way the world worked back then so in a way he was trying to find a way tocheat. The system is really how it worked because the system at that time, like Isaid you couldn't really be a professional writer 'cause. You didn'tget more than t the one time payment...

...for the stories that you got published,thit's just the way it worked, so he found a way to take the system and makeit work for him. He just wrote a lot most people weren't willing to do thatbecause you know at the end of the day, that's a lot of work and he yeah hekinda had to sour his reputation. He wasn't a well liked guy, because againhe was pretty savage, an scritiques 'cause. He would a critique everybody.He'd sometimes showed to the paper with five or six or seven critiques he d. Hewould go through the paper and critique every original work that was publishedin there and he would publish all thosecritiques and then just get paid for each of the critiques. I suppose you're wondering well. Whywould the paper continue to do this? Why would the paper? Let him do that?Why would the paper shell out all that money for him to Cretique all thesepeople, because people ate it up is the thing the papers were happy to publish thesebecause it sold papers again this was the original twitter war. Why do youthink twitter is cool with people going back and forth and having at it,especially the celebrities on twitter because it gets people using twitter? It gets people on the APP, and so youknow like the Boston Harald. I think that was the paper. I think the thatwas the Papor that he was publishing to back then was happy to have him startthese fewds with other writers, because people would buy the paper to read whatyou know. Po had said the WHO or who had said what to Po back again, so the papers were selling out like hotcakes. So for the you know the ten dollars that they paidto Ed, growl and Po, which again ten dollars lot of money back then, but they'd make that money back inspades. They'd make that money back like crazy, so for them yeah they were. They werewriting a pretty big Shek Tag, Rowl and Po, because they knew that basically,he was good for it. They knew that he was good for the money. They knew thatit was worth publishing his stuff because they knew they were going toget the R return on their investment ind the number of papers that got sold. It's crazy to think about that really.Really and truly, it is crazy to think about the fact. The Edgar Allen Po was America's firstprofessional writer only in the sense that he was the first person to find away to make a living writing in a time in place. In a world where making a living off of art didn'texist. ECAUSE, there was no way to make it happen. There was no way to reallysee that return on investment, untithe grand till eggrow and PO figured out away to cheat the system, but the fact that that guy was so smartand was so creative that he was able to find a way to make the system that wasbuilt up against an artist. He was able...

...to make the system work for him when you look at how nowadays so manyartists, you know, musicians and bands are breaking off from record labels andstarting their own and BR, producing their music independently. When so manywebsites like band camp exist where artists can distribute their music ontheir own and just get their money back without having to worry about goingthrough other complicated measures, Edgar allanpoe kind of started that he really did start that he was thefirst he was kind of like the first. Like you know, twitter, you knowInternet celebrity in that way. Yes, he did produce a mazing original content,but he was the first one to really. He was like the first professional criticas well. When you think about it, nowadays, we think of professional filmcritics. You Know Er people all over youtub and on the Internet. They kind of you know they wouldn'thave careers if it wasn't for Edgar Allen, Poe'cause, he wasn't just the first professional writer. He was really thefirst professional critic, because so much of what he was writing wascriticisms of other works and Clapp backs to criticisms of his work, and that is fascinating to me. That isabsolutely fascinating to me that, yes, I love Agrowand Po because he writesdark fucked up shit that that goes t that saying. But what really makes merespect and and have such an inspiration in a love for the guy is that he was able to do what so manyof us want to do, which is take writing, take our art form and turn it into aprofession. He made writing a career. No one had ever done that before we like to joke nowadays about. Oh, youhave an art. You want to be an artist, how how e you going to make money as aprofessional artists, a professional comedian musician. You know what EgRowan Po did it first and he did it without the Internet. Hejust did it by just constantly throwing stuff out there and seeing what's stuckand getting paid for. What's stuck nowadays, it's a little bit harderbecause you know you can be a musician and you know it's hard to find a payinggig or as a comedian, it's hard to find a pain, Gig, but part of the way you do that is youjust keep doing gigs until one of Hem does pay and again that drive that that that motivation to seek out where themoney is in the craft that you have chosen to hold into a career adgrowanpost started that, and that is why Heis my favorite famousdead person, that's why Edgar Allan Po was is an inspiration to me yeah, thecool dark stuff, like that. That's all fine and Dandy, I'm out of that phasein my life, but I still have a love for...

...the man because of what he was able todo for the future of professional artistseverywhere they wouldn't exist, wittout, AD, grow and Po. Something to think about guys we are getting close to starting upbrand new interview. Episodes here on the basement. Lounge OU got a couplemore weeks here, but in the meantime, Whayo guys are enjoying these shortlittle episodes and we back again next week with a really fun episode. I thinkyou're going to enjoy it as much as I'm going to. You know, I'm kind of at the kind of atthe will of the U S Postal Service at this point but fall goes according to plan. I think Ya,guysare really going to enjoy next week's episode. In the meantime, makesure you guys check out my website go to mishe comedy dotcom, go to thewebsite for this pokas the basement, launge Pod, dotcom and make sure you goto Dayton, dotcom and vote for me for the best local comedian of twentynineteen here in Taton, Ohio Han in the meantime I'll see guys real soon and isalways live well, rock on take care and B.

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