The Basement Lounge
The Basement Lounge

Season 1, Episode 44 · 2 years ago

"I've Been Told My Jokes Are Too Smart" with Greg Gray - The Basement Lounge: EP #44


Greg Gray is a newcomer to the world of comedy and he's been having to learn the ropes in very non-conventional ways.

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Grab a drink, pull up a chair and settle it, because you're in the basement lounge. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, whatever time of day it is when you're listening to this. Welcome to the Basement Lounge. This is the cool, she'll relaxed space where we have conversations with people who are Comedians, people who are actors, people who are magicians, people who are just, you know, schmucks on the Internet. And today we are talking with somebody who we're going to you know what, we're going to find out what the hell he is, because I'm gonna be honest, I know absolutely nothing about this guy. This is Greg Gray. I guess is a comedian because he goes by great gray comedy on the Internet. So that's it going great. I'm not too bad. Not necessarily a comedian yet yet. So magic word. Basically, I started doing Improv at while he's with Karen Jaffe, okay, and started class in January, I think. I think my Buddy Matt, yeah, Matt Tasting Matastic and that tastic get him on. He isn't character man. I work with him. Yeah, he's he's he's a treat, he's a trip, but we're not here talking about him, we're going to talk about you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we started doing classes in January and basically we were going to have a show at the end of March. Okay, and we get to the beginning of March and everything just shuts down. So we didn't have any classes and you really can't do Improv you know, social distancing. So sure you can come on. Well, all right, and this in this scene we're playing two people who are in apartment building separated by an alley, talking through their open windows, and that's every scene for the rest of the night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but basically what happened is, since we weren't doing improv every week, I got with the I got on the Dayton comedy discord channel and they were doing feedback Mike's so I just decided to dip my hand into writing stand up comedy just to keep my brain going. I feel you know. Yeah, it's yea, when we when we first set up, I remember Mike Wells came to me and was like we got to do something. So I said I set up the discord server for everybody and it's what sucks is I've not been able to participate it at all. I set the whole damn thing up, I gave a bunch of people like admin access and then, just because of my worst schedule, I've been able to touch it at all. But from what I understand, from from Mike and Dusty, it's been going pretty well. Yeah, we don't, we don't have quite the following that the since you one has, but we have. We have a lot of great people that show up and I mean it's tapered off a bit towards, you know, the last month or so, but well, ...

...yeah, see and Mike have been super helpful toward, you know, helping me become what I am today, which is not much. Yeah, dusty and my dusty and Mike are two of my favorite people in the day and comedy scene. Dusty's one of the first guys I met and got to know when I first moved up here and, you know, and then Mike has become a better and better friend over the last couple of years. Yeah, those two guys I'm real happy with with how they've been running stuff in the discord and I had then. It can't be there, but but it's good to hear that, you know, talking to someone like you who has legitimately benefited from it. Normally, for stuff like this you just hear the same five or six vets going like yeah, you know, which is the thing, but to hear that there's somebody who went and gave it a try for the first time and it's been genuinely bet if any, benefiting from it, is really good to hear. Well, I feel that now I have a leg up on other people who haven't gone to stand up or done their first open mic or whatever, because I've been getting this help from Mike and Dusty and, you know, Matt, Matt Gwinn and and Neal Griffins in there too. So we they've been helping me a lot, as far as you know, timing and shortening down my joke so I you know, tell the most story possible with the fused mental words. HMM. So what do you have? You started to like like hone in on a I mean, I know it's early at and and as somebody's been doing it for well over a debt get a good day. You got a long way to go get but you have no idea. But have you started to settle into some kind of routine as far as your writing goes. Or well, mostly I've been. I've been going to the MIC well school of comedy, which is one liners. Okay, yeah, so that's basically what I've been writing. I got a couple other things that I need to work on that are longer, but I just been basically what happened is I started going through my old, you know, facebook daily memories and seeing the stuff I had written over the past ten years and I was like, oh, that sounds funny. I'll put that down on a piece of paper and then work on that. And I just completed a five minute ish set that I'm going to attempt to do at while he's whenever they start opening back up the open mics and stuff. Oh yeah, everybody feels comfortable. So yeah, it's it's we're all kind of curious to see. You know, you know, Mike Wells put together this four show weekend that we just had over the weekend. You know, he booked and scheduled this whole weekend full of shows and from what I've seen, it went really well. I watched a video of Ray Jackson last night which Ray Jackson's like one of the funniest people in Dayton, and I mean he absolutely crushed it, but it's Curi to see. Yeah, you know,...

...what's going to happen when they start running the open mics again, not to mention, like you know, around town, all the bars and venues that we're hold that we're holding open mics, and there weren't a Terri, terribly a lot of them, but to see which ones are going to are going to start doing those again, if they start doing those again. As a I mean right, it raises a huge question, you know, it really really does, is to what's going to happen next and how it's commonly going to change. Yeah, I think, I think HOOKA's opening up Thursday, but I don't know much about that. I don't know. That's that's not what the the money thing is that the hookah Mike is literally around the corner from my house, like I could walk to it from my house, but I work. Whatever it's going on, it's but yeah, you know, a place like the hookah bizarre, where people are supposed to be sitting next to each other on couches and sharing a hookah and it's yeah, I don't know how that's going to work. Beas Hey, let's just put our mouth on things. Yeah, and then and now. Yet now you throw in, throwing the idea of doing an open mic there and just it's a lot of questions and it's just it. Yeah, it's it's going to be weird to see how things go going forward. But what what was it? So you guys started doing the Improv stuff off at while he's what was it that led you to even start there? Well, I've always been, like, you know, a big fan of whose line and I'm I'm a DD Gamer and GM. So I've got I've got that sort of improvingness, you know, when it comes to storytelling. And basically, back in November I had this kind of mental issue that, you know, just depression, anxiety, stuff like that, and I saw that Karen, not too long after that, had posted, like it was around Lake December, early January, she had posted that she got her start in Improv up in Chicago. Oh Yeah, and I message her and I'm like hey, because I was interested in going down to black box, but they have long form and I was looking for like the WHO's line short form stuff and she she said that she was starting a class and like a week or two and I was like Holy Shit, you know, this is like the more sportuitous thing that that's happens. Like I go looking for something and it just happens to be coming up. So I signed up immediately and the reason I'm doing it is to get over anxiety and, you know, Meet New People and it's it's been great. But I missed doing it because of this whole pandemic shit. Yeah, yeah, a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff is missed right now. It's really thrown everyone's routine for a loop. Karen, Karen Jaffee is is very much the godmother of the Dayton comedy scene. You know, she runs the open Mike at While he's she's incredibly funny, incredibly caring and passionate and she runs Improv class. I have wanted to take one of these improv classes... many times. I was signed up for one at one point and then at work situation changed and I had to cancel. But it is I've been dying to go to one of her improv classes because, I'll be honest with you, the the the the Improv stuff, you know, thinking on your feet and and the quick reaction that is even after all the all these years. That is where I struggle, as have you been finding that in doing this, like maybe like has? How's it helped with the mental with the mental health thing? How's it helped with with the stuff like that? The moment, the moment I step into Wiley's, for that everything is left at the door, and I've never felt that good, you know, inside about you know, like a like a passion for I don't know if it's a career, if it's a hobby, whatever, and it just it made me feel great inside and I wanted to keep doing it. It's basically it. I tell you what, man, you be hardpressed to find a single comedian that doesn't have a similar thing. Where we walk. We walked up to the doors of a venue and the world sucks, our life sucks, but a minute we walk in that door, man, it's the many you walk up on stage, it just did, all goes away. It's why it's you be hardpressed to fight a comedian it's not damaged in some way. It's that's why we do the stupid shit that we do. Yes, exactly, because we are fucked up inside and that's why we do it, man. So let's let's get to know you a little bit more. Here. So you know, and you know we'ren't you know, we're no strangers on this show to dealing with deal with mental health and things like that. You know, we for the longest time had a mental health podcast, a show on this podcast. You know, I myself have been pretty open about about my dealing was with with depression, things like that. As it's something that you've been dealing with for a long time, is it something that's kind of been more of a recent thing? I've been dealing with depression and probably since early teens at least. That's when I got diagnosed with stuff. Okay, and it's been like the last ten years, fifteen years or so, that anxiety is really been showing its face. So so you were so, you see, you were diagnosed fairly young. Yeah, okay, that was on. They put me on you know, whatever medications. I've been through several different ones through. Here's your Brompton cocktail kids. It's yeah, pretty much. Yeah, I didn't get diagnosed away late in life. It was one of those things are just kind of like, man, if you dealt with this when you were younger, it's like, well, dealing with it now. So you want to dealt this when you were younger. Be skinnier. You're no shit. Yeah, yeah, no, depression is not the reason I'm skinny. My eating episode, my love for the mcdouble, is the reason I'm not skinny. Yeah, it's too buck for double cheeseburger. I mean,...

...come the fuck on, it's God forbid you need to pay three dollars for a bell pepper whatever. I never wrong. I like bell peppers, but mostly when they're diced up and put inside of my Caeso. Okay, yeah, so are you? Are you from the Dayton area? Originally lived your yellow life? I've lived here Dayton, Riverside mad river all my life and lived in the same house for forty two years. So far. So No. But seriously, how that's? How the the fuck old are you? I'm forty two. Shut the fuck up. I'll be forty two this year. I I still don't really know how old I am. I have to do the back fuck. It's two thousand and twenty my this was one thousand nine hundred and seventy eight. You know, I never would have paid you for being in your S. Yeah, never, and I have a childish nature about me, I think. And you were still die likens, when you were with men with mental health issues, when you were when you were fifteen. That says a lot, because back then, you know, it wasn't here's here's a box of prozact good luck. Right. Hell, even when I was even when I was coming up, was just going like a, here's a, here's a here's a rubber made container full of riddling go nuts. Yeah, next thing you know, standing on top of a bus stead, on top of a building with a Superman Cape, you know, screaming that you know aliens are coming, or seeing little paints like you had a much more time time than I did. That's a lot of mad. Yeah. Well, you know, I was in South Carolina at that point, where things are really different. YEA, yeah, people say, Oh, you got depression, I'll here have a beer. It's fine. Hey, guys, this is Mike Shay and I want to talk to you about anchor. Yes, anchor is the brand new free way for you to get your podcast career off and running without any cost to you. Simply download the anchor APP or go to Anchor Dot FM to get started. 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I think I found... the law in the course of things that it's kind of a weird combination of both. It's it's a hobby that you could potentially make a living off of, but calling it a career almost seems like like Bougie yeah, like, come the fucked out, okay, is this isn't. This is relax, buddy, it's yeah, what I when I think about comedy is, is that right right now in my brain? I don't care if I make money at it. Yeah, I want to go up on stage and make somebody in that in that room, smile, be happy forget about their problems, and I think, I think that's the you know, that's a that's how we all start off, definitely, but I think the ones who make it the longest are the ones who never lose sight of that. I think there are a lot of people who, after a while, they're so focused on the money making side of it that they lose sight of the other, of the other part of it, and I think that's that's the biggest killer of the career side of things is because there's not a lot of you know, it's one out of every like fucking million comedians that actually becomes like, you know, a Mega Star, you know, millionaire doing this shit. The rest of them pretty much spend the rest of their lives on the road trying very hard to make it from from from month to month. It's not a glamorous lifestyle, but the key is the love for it and what you're getting out of it, not not, you know, from, like you said, from from making an audience laugh kind of kind of point. Yeah, it's like out of since I've been doing this, I never once asked the questions, like how much money did you make? Because I don't think it's that much, but I'm not. I'm not going to ask, you know, it just seems that just seems like a to me. Asking another comedian. That seems rude, like how much did you make tonight? I feel like it's I feel like it's rude in any sense, like you just don't ask people like, like how much money you make today? Man Like commute with a comedian, it's almost like an insult. It's like you motherfucker, you know I didn't get paid for this shit. The fuck would you ask me that? I just drove, I drove twelve hours to pay for a hotel room and perform for twelve dollars. It's like pro wrestling, though. That's not that's not an inaccurate I'll be honest with you, man. It's amazing how many of these guys will drive to Indiana or Kentucky or you know, anywhere. They'll drive five, six hours to go do five unpaid minutes at a bar and then drive back the same night, or stopping some some little roach coach and head back in the next morning. It's these, a lot of these guys, man. They will just they'll do anything. It's like their heroin addicts. Like make them take it some time, please. Okay, get some minutes any sea, some minutes on stage, man. Yeah, it's yeah, there's that hustle and you do eventually get to that point where you got it, where you got to start figuring out if you have that hustle or not. Right now I don't know if I had...

...that hustle. I mean I'll have the hustle for Improv, but I'm not sure I'll I'm not sure where I stand. WAS STAND UP? I have to basically I have to get off on stage the first time you can. You got to do it times and yeah, and see if it's something that I like, because you know, being up there alone is a lot different than being up there with other people. Oh, absolutely it. I did a little bit of Improv in high school and and having other people to play off of helps, as long as you're good at giving them something to bounce off of, which I was not. But Huh, you sometimes you can play off the crowd a little bit, and that you know, that takes a lot of practice. But yeah, when you're up there by yourself, man, I will say this you first you might think, Oh, five minutes as a doe, like a lot of time. Five minutes is a fucking eternity, man. Well, yeah, when I was when I was going through my set the first time with dusty on the discord, I I went through the whole thing and dusty was all like that was only four and a half minutes. I'm like that was at least an hour right. It's it's crazy. You just it just that time and especially, and I work in television, so I'm really aware of like how long seconds and minutes could actually be. But yeah, when you're on that stage, man, it's that five minutes feels like an eternity. But what's crazy is I'll wake up the next morning and the time between when they called my name and the time between when I walked off the stage, I will have no memory of what went down. Oh really, it's so weird. I thought we've thought. I talked about with a couple of other guests. It's like it's like the they caught, like the comedy blackout where it's like you the adrenaline hits so hard that while you're on that stage, that until you see the video over the next dingy, like I don't remember how anything actually went and you see the video and you're like I said that, oh well, shit, okay. It's so bizarre. Man, it really doing stand up. Man, it takes it takes you places. It's so hard to explain, especially considering you haven't done it yet. But Mamma, tell you something right now. Like it is when you get that when he especially, especially when you have whether or not you have a good set, but when you have that really good set, to like the feeling man is is on, like it's the equivalent of a runners high, I would assume. I but I've never had a runners hype. So, before we got into Improv, before we do it honest, what all the what the kinds of things were you getting into? was there any kind of precursor, like where you a theater kid? Did you ever know musician? What are some other things you've done outside of the world, roll the compasically, dungeons and dragons and friends basements and and gaming stores, has been what's what's spurned doing, doing, you know,...

...just coming up with stuff off the top of my head, because I'm a horrible person at, you know, planning ahead, but I'm I'm a lot better just acting in the moment when you know people are role playing out, you know, doing stuff in a tavern. You know, I love the Indie, I love the indecent Goddamn much. It's I had a game I was playing, you know, via discord and all that, for a little bit, but it's it, which is fine. But man, playing DD with the Pencil in the paper and, you know, a bag of a bag of cheetos and a case of mountain dew. It's been just wasting an entire Saturday, man, it's something quite like. People have never played DDS don't get it. Yeah, and and and recently I got into another game that is that a friend of mine, Robert Turk, created called Argu mental, and basically it's a superhero game, but you're also in a mental asylum, so you're not sure whether you're a mental patient or a superhero. And everything is generated mad lib style, almost. What. Yeah, you, you sit around, I ask questions, you write something on a piece of paper and then you throw that into a bucket and then everybody goes around and takes turns pulling those little slips of paper out of a hat and they use that to generate their character, like what their powers are, who they think they might be, what their weaknesses are. It's all randomly generated. And the same thing goes with your adventure. You know the mission that they have to go on. It's all done with questions that I asked them at right at the table, and then I have to come up within my head. You know the storyline that that goes with that. So that's been that's been my most recent pre improv class improvisational stuff. I don't know much of a comic Book Geek you are. Oh, I'm I'm really big into DC comics, but so much into marvel. Okay, so I know you're not much into marvel. You ever read Moonnight? No, but I'm aware of moonnight. So what you're describing to me right now sounds exactly like a recent run. So Moon night is a marvel comic about a guy who's a superhero and has this like Egyptian God or whatever that gives him his powers, but he's also clinically insane, and so there's always this constant back and forth of is this really happening? Is he just nuts? Like it's a fantastic especially if you you know, like reading stories again, you know, dealing with like mental health and issues and things like that. It's a fascinating story to read. But that's kind of what this reminds me of, because literally the one of the most are one of the more recent runs was he was literally locked up in an asylum and couldn't tell if he was actually being tortured or if...

...he was being taken care of her, if he was even there to begin with. It was. It was fantastic, and that's that reminds me of, and it sounds so much fun to play. Oh yeah, it really. It's lose them, and we lost them. Oh No, we lost them. Great Game. I enjoyed playing it. We're losing them, we're losing them. No, Oh, thereis. It says it's unstable. Oh, unstable in it. Oh No, I can't fix it out that it's too on the stable. All right, we're good. All right, cool, I'm not editing that out that. That's fuck it. Staying in losing them again. Oh Shit, we may actually have to stop. Oh Shit, oh, we're gonna we're going to pause real quick and we're back. Technical difficulties. Oh my God, we're good. We're good. We got we got them back. We're on the phone lanes now, I guess. I guess zoom was having some issues from what we from we looked at earlier. We almost made it. Yeah, but that's fine. Well, we're good. But we're talking about DD and role playing and stuff like that, and your buddy made up a game involving, you know, in an insane asylum. Or are you a superhero as far as like one of them? What? My favorite thing about role playing games is the actual, like character building side of that. I love spending hours building and customizing the character. How's that aspect of it? In that game? It's just basically it's it's all done at the table, so it's done pretty quick. But it did. People really latch onto all the zaniness that that's the randomness gives you in that you know it's it is, it is. It is really it's really fun. I hardly ever get a chance to play it because I'm always running in a conventions. But it is I think it's probably the most perfect convention game you can play. For me it feels like it would be almost too easy to accidentally make that pool playing that game. You know. Yeah, you be surprised what all you can come up with. I mean, I don't have anything off the top of my head, but it's it almost reminds me of a game called super powers. I don't know if you've ever heard of that, but it's just you roll randomly on a chart and just get random, weird, like mystery men type of superpowers, like you're really getting. You can, you can, you can walk through you can walk through walls. Yeah, if you're really get at bowling, you know you can. You can, you can roll a perfect three hundreds, but that's really...

...all you can do, you know, and you got to utilize that somehow out in the real world. You know, just the most obscure, almost pointless superpowers ever conceived. Yeah, I love it. It's yeah, well, you got a few minutes, we guys, couple minutes left here before we're going to let you go as far. As you know, we talked about how you're still getting into your having done your first time on stage yet, but you've been doing the Improv and go into the discord feedback mites. I guess my question for you as a new as a new person. I think we hinted on this a little bit of a little bit ago. But what do you what would you say, is what do you think is probably the main thing you're trying to get out of a get out of a comedy experience? The main thing that I'm trying to get is, you know, just to get rid of this anxiety, to have and just to have a great time without having to worry about anything, you know, and and the other thing that I just want to make somebody laugh, make somebody happy for you know, just even if it's just for five minutes or three minutes, depending on how good my jokes are. You know, there and so as and so. Now, with you again being the newer guy in this thing, what are what are some what are some fears you have, like what are some things you're not looking forward to or not sure if you're not sure what the deal with just quite yet. Well, I've been told my jokes are too smart, too clever, that the audience might not get some of them. So getting up on stage and just hearing crickets is probably going to be my worst fear at the moment. But to be to be honest and the discord, everybody's heard my jokes so much that in the last couple times I've run through the set, you know nobody's laughing at them because they don't hurt of all before so it's just been nothing but silence when I say it. So I think that might help, but I'm not. I'm not sure until I get up on that stage. I would say you something right now. You are going to have more bad nights than you are good nights for the rest of your life. That is oh, yeah, yeah, that is. That is the truth of being a comedian is for a long time. But yeah, and the other thing there is is, yeah, you're going to go to a lot of open mics where the only people in the crowd are going to be the other comics who have heard your shit a million times. The big you know, the biggest piece of advice I can give you as to understand open mics are not there for you to tell if your joke is funny or not. You're you're there to figure out how to work on stage, like how to get your stage presence done, how to get your timing done. The yeah, the real true test of whether or not...

...and it's and it's and it's hard to get past. I still to this day, will go to an open mic and have a joke flop and I'll think, will man, I guess that jokes is not funny. Open mics are not a true you know, open mics at a bar are not a true test of if your joke is funny or not. The true test is when you go to a place like while he's. That's how you can tell. If a joke doesn't land there, okay, then maybe it probably isn't it isn't working. But you will find. You will find that from one room to the next, you will get two totally different reactions to whatever you've been writing. Yeah, because it's because right now I I'm varying up my different, you know, annunciations, and you know how much pause I need to make between a joke just for laughs, because it's it's math. I didn't realize how much mass was involved in standup comedy. Oh, it's annoying, I know, it really was annoying. It's as a guy who barely passed math throughout all his time in school, it is annoying how much maths involved in standup comedy. It's like you have to have so many last per second or, you know, for fifteen seconds or whatever, just, you know, to be on par with, you know, even the lower echelon of good comedians. You know, we all got to start somewhere, though, man as the thing, we all all got to start, start down there. We all did, and some of us to this day, after fifteen years, still have those moments where, you know, I have found that if I have too many good shows backtoback, I need to have a bad one. I need because, because I'll start getting a big head and I need something to bring me back down to reality a little bit. So that's why whatever I do, get like that shitty open, I gets like, okay, okay, cool, I could. I'm still I'm I can still fail. That's good, I don't. It's a reality check in and we all need those from time to time. Yeah, but so, Greg Gray, a amateur novice aspiring comedian and and Improv performer, DD player, looking forward to seeing you finally get to have your first time on stage. We're looking forward to seeing where you go from here. Where can the people find you online if they would like to join in in watching your career grow and develop? Well, I can be found personally at at great gray comedy on twitter, facebook. I just signed up for Instagram last night. I don't know what that is, but I might. I might use a picky tax or what it was to but and then you can also find my improv group at Hamster Town Improv on facebook. Is that the name of the group? Yeah, we are called Hamster town. I love everything about that. This so much. So Hamster Town Improv is the Improv group great gray comedy on twitter and now, apparently on instagram. Good for you. I guess INSTAGRAM's fine. I mostly both pictures of my dogs, but since check them out, let's watch, let's all watch Greg's comedy career grow and inflate and...

...and and die in a fiery crash. To Guy. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Let's watch him, that guy, that guy you know. I you know, coming into this it was like, I don't know, actually don't know anything about this guy. I was like, he seems like a good guy, but I'm only basically off the fact that he follows my podcast and watches my live stream supports my patreon. So as far as I'm concert, he's a good guy. But let's find out this guy's an asshole or not. And I think I think we can conclude so far you're not too much of an asshole. You might be an asshole off the MIC, but but you're okay in my book and we're gonna we're going to watch you. We're going to watch you grow and develop as a comedian and Greg, was great, great and get talk to you. Great getting to know you, man. Well, good, good for having me on here. Thanks absolutely, man. You're welcome back any time. And with that being said, folks, that's going to do it for this week's episode of the Basement Lounge. We will be back again next week the brand new episode. Make sure you, guys, check out our live streams Monday, Wednesday and Friday at eleven am eastern on twitch. You should you follow us on all the social media's, facebook and Instagram at Basement Lounge pod, twitter at tvl underscore pod and, of course, you could check out our patreon by going to Patreoncom Basement Lounge pod. I will see you guys again next week and until then, as always, live well, rock on, take care and bub bye.

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