The Basement Lounge
The Basement Lounge

Season 2, Episode 29 · 7 months ago

Teaching A Class


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Hey guys, Mike Shay here.We weren't able to record a new episode this week because Mike Wells had somefamily stuff going on and I had some busy stuff on my own as well. So instead of a regular episode this week, we're going to because togive you guys something a little I can't talk today. We're going to giveyou guys something a little special. Few weeks ago, friend of mine WHO'SA high school teacher here in Dayton asked me to come speak to his classvia zoom actually about podcasting, hosting a podcast, developing a show, andso I got to talk with these students for a little bit of time andjust kind of spu some information at them. But what really brought the conversation toa great point was when they started telling me about the shows that theywere putting together. I had gotten a list from my friend Aaron ahead oftime, but to talk to these kids and here what kind of shows theywanted to make and to kind of have oneonone brain storms with them about theirshows for a few minutes each was so much fun and I got to learna lot about them, and some of them have already launched their shows asof the time that this episode is being released. So I'm so grateful tohear how these guys are doing and how they're learning and growing and developing theirprograms. But I thought it'd be fun to share you with you guys,the recording of that day I had with those students. You can hear metalk to them and here are some of their shows are about. Maybe you'resomeone who's looking getting into podcasting yourself, but I thought this would just bea really cool chance to kind of peek behind the curtncy some of the otherstuff that we do maybe you weren't aware of and just you know how muchI'm involved in the podcasting community and it's just a great this is a greatconversation to have with these kids. So enjoy my conversation with this group ofhigh school students from a couple weeks ago and who knows, maybe you'll learnsomething yourself. Welcome to the Basement Lounge podcast with your host Mike Shay andMike Wells. Sit Back, grab a drink, relax, let's see wherethe time takes us. Enjoy. I have given them a little bit ofan introduction to you. Told them you are the person that kind of gotme going into podcasting through even tide, but other than that, they justknow that you put out podcast pretty consistently. You posted your own shows for formany years now, different shows, multiple shows, etc. Like that. So they kind of know you. But if you want to give thema little bit more of a rundown, feel free and then the the thepodium is yours. Sweet the guys. My name is Mike. I'm acomedian and podcast from here in Dayton. I've been doing podcasting for going onfive years now. I got started doing radio, which is kind of whatled me into podcasting. I've hosted multiple shows. I host multiple shows,I produce shows, I do all kinds of work behind the scenes for folks. It's been a great, great hobby that has continued to evolve and growand hopefully by the end of today you guys will have a new kind ofappreciation for it and we can learn a bit about your teachers told me somethings about some of the shows you guys are working on, some what youguys are working on. So we'll get to talk to each of you andyeah, that's I think that's that's all you need to know about me.The rest I'm sure will come up a little bit later. Are and Idon't know if you have anything else you wanted to go over first. No, I think that's good. Kind of shown the breath of the things thatyou've done, not just being somebody who has been on podcasts, but youknow, for the production side of it. Is something that they are really divinginto, you know, and will be over the next few weeks too. Yeah, so what you guys are all developing shows. So it justkind of just get an idea where we're... with which platform or using anchoror. We do like we what are we using as far as putting thesethings up? Anchor? Yeah, see, anchor anchor something that we got turnedonto when we run of the podcast network, which is which where Imet your teacher. You know, we were using other stuff. Anchor hadan existed yet. In the last couple of years, podcasting has become suchan attainable hobby. When I first got into it, whether that when Iwas still working in radio, it wasn't nearly you didn't have nearly the easeof access that you have nowadays. You had to go and build your website, set up your own RSS feed, figure out how the Heck Apple,you know, processes things. There weren't a billion podcast apps out. Therewas pretty much just strictly the apple podcasts APP. Google didn't have it,spotify weren't, it wasn't. They just started carrying podcast and last year too. So we're things have gotten to in the last couple of years alone iscompletely game changing. Anchor was probably the biggest game changer of all. Theidea that you could create an entire podcast using nothing more than a mobile APPwas was shocking and but and now is. Technology has grown, other companies havefollowed suit. Other other platforms have come to fruition that have similar models, that maybe have certain features that anchor doesn't offer. Granted, anchor isowned by spotify, but what's great is that this is kind of the bestand worst time to be a podcast host. It's the best because there's so muchease of access, but it can be the worst because everyone has,everyone has a podcast now, and so where the real challenge comes in ishow to set yourself apart, because that's really going to be the the firstbig step. Apple Right now is law is rolling out all kinds of hugechanges to how their APP works and how their podcast system works to try tocut down on some of the clutter. There was a post recently with itsaid I think there would like thirty percent of all podcasts on the apple podcastAPP were dead shows, shows that hadn't posted new episodes and years, thatmaybe stopped after three to five episodes because the hosts were like they were.They realized it was more of a commitment than they wanted, or their heartjust wasn't in it or they weren't enjoying as much as they thought and theyjust left their show abandoned. Well, those shows stay on like yeah,it's up. I think it just stopped to cast sizes need to be cast. You hold on one second. You broke it. Okay, I brokeit. Yep, here we go. All right, you should be whatthe podcast network ended. All right, you Goo to go, but yeah, so they're trying to cut down on a lot of that clutter because ita it takes up server space, it be it makes it harder for othershows to get discovered. There are shows out there that still pull in thousandsof, not millions, of hits. Every one it did again, Ithink someone's stopping the because we're using chrome cast type chrome crass is wonderful whenyou're not sharing it with a group of people. Yeah, I don't know. Don't. I don't care for cromecast. All Right, here, let me. I'M gonna wait a second and spy and see if anybody in hereis on here, but like in the school, because it's on the samenetwork. Okay, see if anybody use us. No one's using it's notlike keeps dropping. Wouldn't? I don't. I think the Internet's fine. TheInternet. I'll say, like connection, yeah, and it won't. Itwon't show me here. Has It as having an option that we'll justcontinue. All right, you're good. All right, cool. Yeah,so cut down that clutter. There after...

...jokes out there that have thousands millionsof hits every month that have it put up an episode into three years,which means they're still showing up on these like popular podcasts lists. It's justterms in terms of like ratings charts, but then people subscribe to the showand then they never get a new episode. So they're trying to cut down ona lot of that clutter. You see apps like Iheartradio, which carry'spodcast, which is trying to they have a rule actually where if your podcastwasn't put up at least one new episode every week, they just take ashow down. So podcasting is one of those hobbies with things you get intothat you get out of it what you put into it. If it's somethingthat you're just real casual about, you know it's not something you want tobreak an arm over that. That's totally fun. You can be as Canshuwith it as you want. That's why anchor is such a great app forthat kind of thing, because you can record through your phone, put themusic and through your phone do all the uploading. It takes all the heavylifting off your shoulders. It's great for beginners and really casual podcasters. Imoved off of anchor to another platform because I do might take my podcasting alittle bit more seriously. I had other goals I wanted to achieve that anchorjust couldn't really provide for, and so you'll find that. You know,podcasting is a lot of like that. It's a lot of changing updating,trying new things, never getting too stagnant, because that's how you wind up withwhat we call pod fade, which is basically that you do it andthen you just kind of stop doing it, then your show to stay as deadin the water. But as a podcast host, what what can bereally exciting and a lot of fun is just the level of control you have. It's your show. It can be whatever you want it to be.It can be as serious or as funny or as in depth or is laidback as you want it to be. And because we're doing podcasts and notlike web shows, removing the video element removes a certain amount of pressure thatyou might have. There are plenty of podcast and incorporate video. It's andand you know, you guys, know you guys going to talk about marketinglater on down the road and I'm sure they will bring that up a greatdeal. But at the end of the day this is an audio format andso all you have to do is just sound good. And it's a loteasier to sound good than to look good. Anybody who works in Radio will tellyou that most of them have faces for radio, and thank you ifyou get that so. But as the host, you know it's so muchfun because you're in the driver's seat at all times. Some people like tohost and produce, which is like what I like to do. Some peoplelike to adjust host, but it's your show, you're holding the reins,and that that to me, is if you're a control freak like me,there's nothing better than than podcasting trying to see here. So your teacher gaveme a rundown of what some of your show topics were. Only pull thatup here. We were talking about that yesterday and I'm loving so far.Just, first of all, just this huge variety you guys have, likelike no two shows are really the same. Here we've got a true crime show, which those aren't true crime shows are the hottest thing in podcasting rightnow. Like Kim Kardashian has one, for crying out loud. Everyone's doinga true crime podcast. They're immensely popular. See a show about weird research projects. I don't know you've ever seen the show Diysi, which is kindof like a it's a kid show, but it's, as you know,funny science projects and stuff like that, which I don't know that's the samething or not, but it's kind of what that reminded me of. Seeanime and anime and Ethics Co lead show, as my reading that right. Yeah, so you get two that are going to in together their co hostinga show using different, you know,...

...anime shows, and discussing the ethicswithin those shows. Oh cool, it could explain to be wind full metalalchemist that they say, Oh, I turned a I turned sand into adoor, but it's not magic. Best lists of bad movies. Always lovethose. Medical interview show. That's that's especially if it's for the time rightnow, a playlist show, which I'm assuming is music based, a basketballopinion show, sports podcast or crazy popular right now. And then, let'ssee, we had an opinion based generic show. You said she should betalked about what it's like to be an American Indian teenager. Love all these. I love that in this group there is no, none, known twoof these shows sound the same, and that is fantastic, because that canbe one of the most difficult things of being a podcast host, is settingyour show apart from others in in this pandemic time that we're living in.You know, a lot of us went into it as as these as podcastors, looking for silver linings and and that was well, everyone's gonna bestuck at home looking for something to do, so we're going to see like amassive influx and pot cast listenership, which we did get. What wealso got, though, is because everybody was home and board was everybody startingtheir own podcasts as well. So it kind of like we had a hugeincrease in audience, but also a huge increase in in show content as well. So the struggle is out there to set yourself apart, even just alittle bit. I don't know if you guys have ever heard the phrase simpsonsdid it, but that is from South Park where they were trying to theone characters trying to be an evil villain and he keeps coming up with allthese evil plans and his partner keeps saying simpsons did it there, they didit in their show, and the idea was that, well, if everyone'sdone everything, how can you do something new? It is it is tough. You know every everything was going to be a little bit of derivity fromone show to the next when you're playing in a niche and you can't getdiscouraged by that. You can't get so obsessed with being different that you justnever do your show or you let your show frustrate you. But you alsowant to make sure that you don't just fall into a generic mold as well. So putting your own spin on things as the host, being the host, is where that difference comes in. You might have a similar topic assomebody else, but what's going to make your show different is you and howyou approach it and how you talk about it. Let's see, here areand I don't know if you had any questions or points you wanted to bringup here. Well, no, that's something to the glad you brought thatup, because when when I started doing movie reviews, it was I wastrying to be too unique and then that made it overstructured and then I justfell apart. And so then when I just started talking to my guest speakerabout the show, about the movie, not worrying about every single point inthe movie, you know, jumping around, just letting it be more conversational,I let my show be my show and then I had fun doing itmore people enjoyed listening to it. It became a little bit more enjoyable todo every week, you know, and so don't try to feel like youhave to be different. If people are and part of the marketing is goingto be there your listeners are probably, when we start, are going tobe your friends and family, you know, like the people that areinterested in what you do, and then pass that you're going to get somerandom like you guys saw some of the random countries that listen to my show, you know, just like people and anchor who find it and I likeokay, this is fun and maybe listen to one episode, maybe the listento every single one I put out. That's not you can't get yourself worriedabout that. You just put your show out and have fun doing him.So, yeah, you know, your shows a great example of that.Like, yeah, when you when you're free, because you would never donepodcasting before, like ever, and when... came in those first the firstfew runs of the show, we're very structured and very kind of just bulletpoint it, which is when you're first starting out. If that's what's comfortablefor you, great, you want to you want if you're not comfortable makingthe show, it's going to it's going to reflect you know, we wegive away so much of our feeling and emotion in the way we speak,and when that's all your listeners have to go on is how you speak,they're going to be able to notice that kind of thing. And so asyou get more comfortable, as it stops feeling like work and starts to feelmore like fun and becomes more relaxed and more organic, is where it's goingto really take off. One thing I do want to emphasize is that isa podcasting is very much a patient person's game. Most shows don't start seeingany kind of like noticeable, let's call it success, for at least theI want to say at least the first year, and that's kind of justthe sable hazard of the game, because there is such a saturated market forpodcast there are so many podcasts out there and there is that struggle to standapart that it does take. It can't take a little bit of time toreally find your audience. You know, Aaron says, you know you mighthave your first few listeners being your friends and family. Honestly, you'll belucky if you have your friends and family checking out your show, because whatyou're going to what you're going to find real quick is as much as yourfriends of family love and support you, they don't necessarily want to listen toyou just talk for thirty minutes straight about something you're into, unless they happento be into the same thing. I'm a comedian. All my shows aremost of my shows for comedy based. Most of my family doesn't get mysense of humor. It's just the way it is. It's a generational thing. My mother has told me to my face. She's like, I justcan't sit there more than a few minutes to your podcast. Granted, nother snatter style of humor, and I can live with that. But we'vebeen doing we've been doing our show for about two years now and we're finallyseeing a significant increase in our listenership because we just kept our nose to theground. We made changes and adapted an adjusted as time went on. Wedidn't we didn't get stubborn and just keep things the same because that's what wewanted to do it. We looked at trends, we looked at what ourlisteners were thinking it or listen to feedback and we adjusted, an adapted andas things worked, we kept them as that, we kept them going.If they didn't work, we abandoned it and tried something new. So beingpatient and being adaptive is really is really going to be a huge a hugetool when it comes to hosting your own podcast. Excuse me, let's seehere. It's really pretty much all I have as far as just general informationgoes. I'd really like to just go ahead and jump into Aaron, unlessyou had anything else you wanted to you wanted to bring up. I loveto go in and get talking to talking to the kids here and see andI put yeah. So if you guys, any questions at all, any anythingyou want to know, or or whatever you know, throw it atme. Let's let's, let's have an open dialog here. So, outof all of the shows you either host it or produced, what has beenyour favorite, and why? The one I'm doing right now, the basementlounge, has been my favorite because for the longest time I was I theproblem I was having was I was making shows that I thought other people wantedto hear and I was trying to appeal to two broad of an audience andI wasn't. I wasn't being myself. I was trying to create something Ithought people wanted to listen to, which made finding my audience very difficult.So instead I and I decided I'm just...

...going to make the show I wantto make and I'm not going to be afraid to try new things. I'mnot going to be afraid to experiment, and that's where the basement lounge camefrom. My originally started the basement lounge. It's just a way to experiment withprogramming. When the podcast itself had like three different shows built within itand I was just trying different episodes and different styles of shows until I foundthe one I really liked and I did that for I did that style forfifty straight episodes. It did. It was a long form interview podcast withentertainers. I interviewed fifty different people, everyone from the local comic that getsfive minutes to I interviewed a director, a director and voice actor working outin Hollywood. I still do interviews from time to time. I had aninterview with I don't know if anybody listens to heavy metal, but I hadan interview with Cobra from Cobra and the Cobra in the Lotus. It's havingthis show has been so much fun because I've really gotten to just breathe andand be myself with the show, and now it's evolved into a new kindof show with, you know, I brought on a cohost and the showhas become, I like to tell people it's Joe Rogan, but a lotless pretentious, and we have a lot of fun and this is the showthat I've seen the most growth with and the and that the growth doesn't whatmakes the show my favorite, but the fact that I'm I'm having that growthbut still get to have a show where I be myself. This has beenthe most fun I could ask for. Well, you guys got come on, I know it's early. They even have to be in here till nine, so they got to sleep in. All right. Well, I'll askabout some of these shows then. So who's the one doing the the truecrime, the female murder podcast? Okay, great, that so why I decidedthat I wanted to do something to your crime based anyways, because thedark side of humanity, to me is one of the most interesting things aperson could ever want to know or to like what's to know or does alreadyknow, and so I wanted to dive deeper into kind of the darker sideof humanity. But every time you see its true crime podcast, it's alwaysnames like Bundy or Gaycy or dummer. It's never names it's never female names. It's Never Eileen Wardos or Elizabeth bathory, it's never these females that, althoughit's, you know, a strength place to ask for a quality,although they did pretty much the same thing, why are they being pushed to theside? Women are always looked at as a victim, not the perpetrator. So why don't we flip the narrative and see what happens when a womanof perpetrator and her victom tends to do maw. That's that's great and Ican already tell just the way you're talking about that you're passionate about it thanyou care. One of the things as a host, you're going to getasked a lot is what's your show about? And you got to kind of you'vegot to be able to perfect that, and this is kind of more ofthe marketing thing, but you gotta able to perfect that, that elevatorpitch. Basically, you got you got thirty seconds to tell me, totell me why I should listen to your show, and the more you soundlike you actually care about it, the more lightly the person is to listento it. I will, I will suggest to you if there's a ifyou're looking for a show that's not do win the big names like you know, like like Bundy or Domroo that. There's a show called in the dark, which is a very, very long form of done two seasons, buteach season is like like fifty two, sixty episodes, and they do deepdives of research into these cases that have happened around the US, to thepoint where one of their shows, their lat their most recent season, gota man off trial for murder would have been on trial for twenty five yearsand it's spent twenty something years in prison. And because they did the kind ofresearch and hat we we're able to... the kind of things the policemaybe aren't or weren't willing, weren't able to do or weren't willing to do. They got this man, they were able to prove this man had nothingto do with the crime was accused of. And it's a fan so I recommendchecking that one out. And it's hosted and led by a team ofwomen, and so that so there. There's that aspect for you as wellwith with the show, like like how are you with how are you withlike research? I can find almost anything I want to find in any timeframe you gave me. That's going to be a true CRA. PODCASTS ingeneral, and I know you guys gonna hate to hear this already, podcastin general can have a lot of homework. If you're doing an interview, ifyou're playing a certain band or talking about sport, there's a lot ofhomework that can be involved in terms of like just doing some research. Buttrue crime especially, you know the the hours you're going to spend prepping forfor one episode. I know people who set out to make true crime podcastefor three months never got their first episode done because they weren't prepared for thehomework. So if you're prepared for the homework, Godspeed. It's something Icould never do. That's a lot I like. I like fallen down rabbitholes on Wikipedia as much as the next guy, but not enough that Icould ever devote that kind of time to. So you know it's not for everybodyin terms of making that kind of show. So more power to youfor for committed to it. Let's see, who's the weird research projects person?That's me, that's you. So weird research projects, what are youtalking about? So specifically I'm focusing on so there's this like Um Satirical ScienceAward called the ignoble prizes, that's done by this like Science Humor magazine calledthe annals of improbable research. And so for the past like for the pastlike thirty years or something, they've been giving out these ignoble prizes for kindof like strange or weird or trivial research findings of that year in the variousdifferent categories, and most of them are like have like the journal articles andstuff like that posted and they're like scholar scholarly reviewed articles, but they're likevery very strange or like very very trivial things that you're kind of just likewell, like why did this get funding? Why did you research this? AndI just for me because I'm a bit of a science nerd, butI also didn't want to like do a podcast that was just kind of liketalking about things that you would normally hear about on something like that. Iwanted to kind of talk about like kind of the weirder side of research,because you have to research sometimes kind of weird or trivial sounding things to getup to the like groundbreaking stuff, and sometimes the weird and trivial things don'tlead to the groundbreaking stuff. Sometimes it's just weird and someone's just studying somethingthat's just strange and you wouldn't think that they'd want to study it, butit's just like really interesting to me and it kind of just combined two differentaspects of the end it's kind of like right there because of the award,so I don't have to like go like searching into like really deep so giveyou an example. One of these experiments. I'm into this now. Okay,so this one's kind of this one's a little bit gross, but there'sthis study that was studying it was trying to validate whether a claim that wasfrom like an archeology account about this man who used frozen human feces as aknife and it was trying to research, using a very controlled experiment, toresearch whether or not that is actually possible. I want to watch that episode along order. That's fantastic. That's that's that's that's the best thing Iheard someone any like us. It's just,... know, well's it's the nextstep past using the icicle. Now we're just using yeah, crap.I'm into that. That's a show. That's a show I would listen to. That's a show I would listen to a hundred percent, not just becauseit's about much the crap episode, but but, but, if that's it, that's the kind of stuff we're talking about. As far as like weirdresearch projects goes, stuff that's like that weird. Absolutely still that I'm nota I'm not a big science guy myself. You know, I watched bill andI like everybody else growing up, but that was mostly because, youknow, goofy sound effects and occasionally stuff what's, you know, catch onfire. But yeah, I mean and also, like you mentioned, becausethere's an award for this kind of thing. That's going to make your workload thatmuch lighter because you were to have to go into whatever this awards lookingfor, and because of the way social media works nowadays, once you startedgoogling something, you'll never stop seeing ads for it. So also there's awikipedia has a list of every single one with links. There you go alot wikipedia treasure. I don't know why teachers don't let people use it asa source and papers. Aaron, it's I don't know. I I sayyou can start there, but that shouldn't be your point of used to seeuse the sources that they say absolutely remember that generation. But we know beforewikipedia or when it first started, they didn't require them to cite their sources. So yeah, the longest time wikipedia was but it's gone a long way. All right. So I want to get into the this anime and ethicsshow. WHO's doing this? Our Corner Warner? So anime and ethics?What? What led you to this? That? That is a junction Idon't think I ever heard anybody ever really talk about. I got a lotof friends are into anime. So, like, where did this come from? One is one of you an aspiring lawyer, one of you an aspiringanime artist. Like where we had here a reason, because people don't often, because we hear about novels and action shows like that. You really complexthings, ethics and real world problems animated never got any attention. For Ifeel like an is like something that isn't he can very seriously in terms ofthings, and even some of the most serious and like shows that are superpopular and they get a lot of attention and they deal with really type she's. It's not because the deal with top issues really or there's not really lookthere. We don't get praised for it or like it doesn't talked about asI feel like it should be, and me personally, I find it ofreality and human brain, like how it works. I like thinking about whysomebody would do something or like they we find somebody of a bad person agood person. That just really interesting to me. So I wanted to beable to express that, sure that other people, because I feel like Iwould and making something that I would want what to do, because I thinkthat really interesting. Now you just hit, you just hit the magic button.Right there. Would you said you're making something that you would want tolisten to, and I think that is a really important thing with podcasting.Part of the reason I have made and host at currently so many podcasts isbecause I'm a big fan of listening to podcast and sometimes I'm looking for ashow that covers a certain topic and if...

I can't find that show, ifit's within my my abilities, I just make that show and try to seehow feasible it actually is. Maybe there's a reason that kind of show doesn'texist. Maybe no, but he's ever tried it. So that right theregives you that leg up because it's something that you want to listen to.So, similar to with the young woman with the true crime show, becauseyou care, because it's something that you care about and that you want totalk about and will listen to. That's going to translate over the will callthem the air waves, and that's going to help entice people to keep listeningbecause they know that something you're passionate about. And you're right that that is somethingI've never heard anybody talk about. I'm not a big anime fan likea lot of my nerd fan from friends. I've watched a few, but fromwhat I have seen, like yeah, there's not always a big there's notalways a big discussion even within within the animes, of moral compass,things like that, and so to explore that within the confines of you know, because anime itself can be very fantastical. So to ground it in that way, to make it a bit more relatable to an audience is who,because you're you're going to attract a lot of anime fans, obviously because it'sbuilt into it. You might turn them onto a new line of thinking thatthey've never considered before, and that's going to help build that audience out.That's that's really cool. See here. Best listen to this one is thatyou guys? All Right, so big movie fans? Yeah, so whythe I'll ask this. Why the why the lists of bad movies and Igood movies? I think it's really easy to point out all the good thingsabout good movies and that's like what's always focused on. You know, it'slike, Oh, this one movie gets everything, but there's a whole bunchof like people like really awful movies, people I'n't heard about. So Ithink this is a lot more fun to watch really awful things. I don'tdisagree. Some of my favorite pastimes have been like with friends on the couchwatching terrible horror movies on like Amazon prime and just left. I watch onerecently about a killer couch and just told them we just talked about it today. That was one of that. That is the best two hours of mylife I have spent in a long time. Oh my God, not to mentionStanta jaws. I don't have anybody watch Santa Jaws this year, butit was about a killer shark with a Santa Hat on his fin just.Okay, yeah, Kill the killer Sofa one which, by the way,it's not even a couch, is a recliner. But we can debate that, lady. The the way that the it looked like it had eyes ina Perma scal was just I want to watch that movie again now. Ifwhat's he about doing a show like this guy's? It's just the last thirtyseconds here. You say bad, terrible movies that are fun to watch.We all, we all immediately relate. And and also that itself is inherentlyfunny. Talking about bad movies is inherently funny. which comedy podcasts are crazypopular, and if somebody can laugh while listening to something instant poll so absolutely. Like. What are some of the ones, you guys? Are Otherthan the Killer Sofa, because that movie was amazing. What like? Whatdo you guys? What do you get any off top of your head?You want to talk about like that? You have in mind? We gotall list awesome. Do you know what food boy is? That's fine.No, no idea. It's bad. Yeah, thanks killing, yes,thanksgiving, Turkey. Yes, I got Oh velas of pastor. That's agood movie. That movie is a treasure.

That movie is a trick. Butboy is what I didn't add. But boys pretty good. That's anAmazon they're all on Amazon prime's that's where they all like the line that likereally bad my action remakes, like the Mario One and like the you're talking. You're talking to a guy who saw that in theaters. Wow, I'mold that would saw that in theaters when it was released. Talk about amovie that broke some hearts. That movie is good, so so that Ithink movie. I mean and and ninety percent of the podcast I listen toour movie podcasts. So that's already like something I'd be I'd be into.And Yeah, there are a ton of podcasts that like to focus on thegood ones because, Ay, they know everybody's probably seen them. And also, I think that's sometimes with especially with movie podcast there's this wanting to avoidnegativity. And what I what I like to say is just because the moviesbad doesn't mean you got to be negative about it. You can. Youcan rip something a new one and still, in a way, be positive aboutit if your purpose is not to like, like degrade the movie,but just shine a light on its flaws. And also you can make it funny. You know, you can find you can find the diamond and rough. You can find a movie like Killer Sofa that's objectively awful, but havethe time of your life watching it and talking about it. I mentioned theI mentioned that movie. We all started laughing and talking about it. Sothere's a there's a there's a there's a strange coming together you can have talkingabout bad movie. So so I like it. Let's see the medical interview. You show mine, tell me about it, man. So I'm essentiallygoing to be like interviewing different doctors that either I personally know or like someoneelse, like someone's parents. Nothing like seeing how they got into med schooland reasons, like how covid affected them and how recently, like why likethe different changes to the tests, like act in the mcat, how they'rechanging their colleges, I've been changing it. I want to see, like theirfew points and why people should go into medical because, like, there'sa shortage of doctors right now and it's something that I feel like younger,like my generation, should know to go into these like colleges and try totry to help them to go into these premaed colleges and routes. That's that. I definitely could not tell you too many shows, at least not thatI've heard of, that that focus on the medical field, like that.So I think that's great. You know a lot of doctors. That's that'sstrange for a person your age. Is Everything, okay, everything, okay, okay, it's cut. Spends a lot of time with a doctor.All right, so that's that's really cool spential because you have that personal connectionto it. Again, going back to what we've hit a few times today, is having a personal connection with something, being able to show and prove thatthat you care, that that that you that you are into it,is going to translate really well to to your listeners. And we're in atime right now, because of the pandemic, where there's a lot of attention andfocus on medical science and medical professionals, and so say, I guess that'sgood to my transcripts and it looks great on your transcript. Is thatsomething you're going to go to school for? Is is in a medical field?Yeah, so see, there you go right there. College is lovethat stuff, just saying, and college is love podcast in general, becauseit shows you're willing to commit to something and and put in the time,in the effort. Now, whether or not that podcast is about the medicalfield or killer furniture is really not that big a deal. But yes,the idea of getting to talk to doctors,...

...because I think, I think alot of people, you know, they watch gray's anatomy, but theyhave no idea actually like how any people actually became doctors. I'm not suchreally the actors do either. But you know, shows like gray's anatomy er, which was on for like ten years, the you know, people love watchingthe medical shows, but I don't think they actually know a whole.You know, scrubs, for crying out loud, was, was still isstill talked about to this day. So being able to get the inside scoopon how how that field kind of actually works, I think is going toscratch an edge a lot of people don't realize they have. So that's that'sgreat. Let's see what's okay. So what's The playlist show? Who's doingthe playlist show? That's you. So okay. What kind of playlists?Okay. So basically I just spend like a like way too much of mytime making like really specific playlist based on like certain events in my life,are like certain feelings or like certain like words, like just very, veryspecific and I really like to share a new music. So I'm basically justgoing to be like reviewing my own playlists and like making fun of my newtobe taste a little bit and like just looking for new music suggestions and justbasic commentary on like the band's I like that's really cool. I'm a bigmusic fan, you know, work in radio for ten years and and Ihave, I like, making playlists myself. Usually mine are like playlists of likethe set lists of band played at one of their shows. You saythat your show, your playlists get really specific. Are we talking like thefirst time my dog tried wet food specific, or like what we are we talkingabout here? Like it like some of some of them are like veryspecific events, but some of them are just like okay, when I whenI listen to this song, like I feel like I'm eating an orange,and so like I have a playlist that's like about like what it feels likelike eat an orange and like listen to the song. It's like very specific. I that is that, that is that is specific. See. Sofirst of more things I love about this is so because it's a music podcast, you've got to be careful because because copyright is a thing, and sowith music podcasts, one of the things that people tend to run into Strain terms of obstacles is incorporating the music into their show, because just talkingabout why a song is good it's old real quick. People want to hearthe song to believe it for themselves. And despite the number of laws thereare that protect content creators like us in terms of using music, most platformsdon't follow those rules. If you youtube, for example, there are all kindsof laws that protect people who want to use movie clips or songs intheir videos or podcasts that youtube just does not care about. They will pullyour episode down the minute it gets uploaded and you will spend weeks trying toget it re uploaded again, even if you follow the law to the letter. So just be aware of that and be careful that just because you followthe rules doesn't mean they're going to care. So that can be frustrating, butdon't let that deter you. I hosted several music podcasts. You justkind of you to kind of just roll with it and and you know,again, you just where you can, but as long as you're not,like you know, just playing whole entire songs, just don't. Don't doit. I will say the more obscure your music, like like I didone where every every band or artist I...

...played was from band camp. Soit was really like not most of them weren't on a label. It kindof lowered the risk of of copyright strikes because most of them were happy tohave your music featured. But regardless of all that, that's the kind ofthing that can be really good at building a community around your show because,and I'm already thinking like you can, you know, you can have itto where people can submit ideas for playlists. They one here, like make aplaylist for songs that are great for days where the temperatures between seventy andseventy five degrees. I don't know, get us weirdly specific is going.It's six, yeah, and you can have that kind of feedback and becausebuilding a community, and again, this is more remarkating thing, but buildinga community around your show is one of the most fulfilling things you can haveas a host, because not only they listening to your show, they're gettinginvolved. They want to be they want to be a part of the show, and that can and so music playlist similar to movie playlists, are greatfor that sort of thing, because everyone's got an opinion about music. Everyone'sgot an opinion about movies and, whether you want to hear their opinions ornot, they're gonna tell you if you like something, a song or aband that they think sucks, they will not hesitate to tell you your tasteof music is terrible, or vice versa. If you happen to pick one ofone of their favorite bands, are artist that they thought nobody else everlisten to, they're going to get so excited. So that is fantastic.Let's see, we're running low on time here. The basketball opinion show.Oh yeah, it's that's me. It's not actually like an opinion shally.I know the name is kind of I don't know, I just kind ofcame up with that, but it's like I go through different chant my favoritelike championship rosters, and then be a and I basically break down why Ilike them and how they want basically. So, like, for example,my first episode is I'm looking at the two thousand and sixteen cavaliers who cameback from like a one deficit in the finals, right, and like itwas like a huge moment for Ohio and stuff. Right. So that's myfirst episode. And then I'm doing one with like the old four Pistons,who were like insanely underdogs. They don't have any hall of famers on theirteam, right. And so I'm just looking at teams that I think arelike unique or like really cool and I'm just breaking down how they want thatchampionship like and stories about them and stuff. And then I'm doing one special episodewhere I basically just go through different players with like really crazy stories,you know on Dennis Rodman or whatever, right, and and I'm just gonnalike talk about my favorite fun stories and NBA. So that's like one specialepisode. Not that's really cool. I remember that two thousand and sixteen cavs. So I I work for the local ABC station. I work in thecontrol room, I run I run the commercial breaks and things like that,and I was running the working the board the when when that championship happened,and I mean you could hear the whole office erupted. I mean the newsteam was sitting in there and waiting to go live and I could hear themthrough the sit downproof walls. I mean we were we were so excited forthat. And it's with sports podcast you well, I like what you're doingbecause you're keeping it. You're very broad. You're talking about something from from fromtwo thousand and sixteen, but that's people are going to want to listento. With sports podcast a lot of people fall into especially when you getsports specific is when that sport is in the offseason, what do you talkabout? Like this is probably something that I could do. That would beway utter. So yeah, my problem I don't know how to make itlike more laid back. You know, it's something that requires a lot ofresearch and like I don't know. So...

I don't know how to do that, because yesterday I tried to record for the first time and it took meso long and I didn't get much contents. I'm still kind of worried about that. You know, that is that is podcasting one hundred and one,my friend. That is when you're when you're first starting out and doing it, you are going to sit there and spend hours and hours and hours gettingthat first episode done and you're going to hate it. You are going hateit, because I was like, man, what is this? What did Ido? What am I doing? Dude? I've been doing I've beendoing this for so long I hate the sound of my own voice. Soexactly, I can listen to my own show like I'll be in the wejust dropped the new episode today. I'm going to pull it up in thecar as I drive to work later tonight and I'm just going to sit thereand just twitch whenever I talk, because we're just like no, but peoplewill, people are listening, so I'm doing something right. So yeah,but when you first get started, man like because you're just talking to yourselfand for an extended period of time you may have a cohoster or not,but regardless, you're speaking into the void and and you can start. Ifyou start to think about it, you can feel silly because you're like,I'm talking to myself. Anybody walking past the room right now would think Iwas high. It's plain and simple, and so that I can feel intimidatingand feel scary. But once you get that first one done, it isa floodgate opener because suddenly you can say I did it, it's done.Now there's nowhere to do but just work on the next one. And Yeah, because you're doing a, for lack of a better term, is storraclekind of podcast talking about things that happen previously. There's a lot of researchto do and with any podcast there's pretty going to be research to do.My show is it's two comedians sitting around talking about current events and what makesthem stupid. But we stought to know something about those things that are goingon. Our our episode for this week is about this dogecoin thing and aboutthe AMC in game stop stock incident from a little while back. I knowvery little about that kind of thing, but my cohost is super into thatstuff, so it really the show kind of turns into him educating me aswell as the audience. Is the what actually went down with that incident.So doing the same thing with with a basketball podcast, you know, andalso again choosing to focus on big stuff, like you're not talking about the gamefrom you know, may, five, two thousand and you know eleven.You know that nobody remembers. You're talking about woman. Yeah, sothe information will be there and again it's a moment that people remember that wasemotional for a lot of basketball fans. So again that built an audience isthere and people are going to want to are going to want to listen.One thing I could I could advise for having trouble is try to try topretend like you're just you just talking about it with your friends, like pretendyou're just sitting and having a basketball chat with your buddies at lunch or somethinglike that. I almost said over a beer, but now don't do thatand make that if you're struggling with how to make it sound, you know, more relaxed. You know, have that conversation with your buddies. Record, record yourself talking about it with your buddies. You know you can recordit on your phone. Just sit down and be hey, guys, let'stalk about that two thousand and sixteen a cavs championship and just and just recordthat and see how it goes. You don't have to publish that as yourepisode, but you can use that as kind of that that litmus test forokay, is this what I wanted to sound like, or is there somethingthat comes up in this that I can work with the kind of just getthat edge off a little bit. You know what I mean? Cool Man. Lastly, because I know we're about... a time here, there wasone. It was the being an American Indian teenager, and I just kindof just like like talking about me and my life, experiences I've had orthings I wish I would have known, and super laid back. It's justlike kind of like a conversation, like with a friend or just like,I don't know, just like reflecting online, and those are the podcast that Ilike to listen to and, you know, wish I would have hadsomething like relatable when I was like. So, yeah, that's kind ofjust what I'm going for. That thing right there that you just said thatyou wish you'd had that when you were growing up, is going to besuch a huge driving point for your show, because I guarantee there are so manyother young people out there, or even younger than you, in yourexact situation, who have had those experiences or feel like they are the onlyone who has had them and that nobody can relate to them, and they'relooking for a place to to find that Camaraderie, and your kind of showcan be that exact thing. It's ridiculously relatable, whether that's a good ora bad thing, to a lot of people out there who are the childrenof immigrants, who are just for the first time coming to coming here,especially given the current climate of things of the last few years, whatever thatmay be. It's going to again, similar to like we were talking aboutwith the young lady with the music show and the gentleman with the basketball show, it's going to just kind of organically build a community. People are goingto want to hear about those experiences and they're going to relate to them andthey're you know, event they're going to want to reach out. You know, they're going to want to say, Hey, I can relate to thator hey, you know, did you? They might say, Hey, youfelt this way. Did you ever? Considers is going. It's going tonaturally insight conversation and that's one of the great things that podcasts can do, especially one like that that. That's the kind of show that I thinkpeople right now are really really looking for, is that kind of experience, becausewe're starting to hear a lot more stories about that, about out andwe hear them all the time from celebrities about, you know, how theirfamily came to the states and stuff like that, but hearing it from regularpeople about how how their family came to this country, the things they've hadto indore, positive or negative, because of their ethnicity or their origins orwhatever the case. Maybe it opens a lot of doors again for community andconversation, and so I think that's I think that's a fantastic idea. Andagain, like we talked about everybody here, it's extremely personal and passionate to you. It's something you care very much about and that's going to come acrosswhen you're speaking, when you record, people are going to hear that inyour voice. I think that's fantastic. All right, so I only gota couple minutes left, so I wanted to go ahead and just any anyother questions anybody has about anything we've said so far. Really Hey. Well, I'll tell what I'm going to do. So because I know you guys areworking really hard on this and you've got a lot more going on.You're going to talk about marking stuff later on. I'm going to give mycontact information to your teacher. If you guys ever at any point want toreach out send me a demo of your episode just ask any other questions youmight have. Anything like that. You guys can always reach out to meand then Aaron. As far as like like like like logos, podcast logos, like are you guys cut bring that like we're where's that fallen in termsof this shit? And so for logos, my sister in law is a graphicdesigner and she had we've got we're waiting on a couple more to comein, but everybody who wanted one through that is going to have one.So we're actually we've got some cool one so far. But yeah, we'recovered there. I think one of the...

...other things that potentially, you knowthey're unsure of. We're starting the social media today. So, and Iknow you're really active in that, we're going to have somebody come in nextweek talking about building up a brand. But like any quick advice about asyou're starting to build up that, because I mean they're they're creating the pagesand accounts today, so they're really in those early stages so far as socialmedia goes. Post often. Post often, because that's how you going to getyou know instagram. You know that. INSTAGRAM and facebook both none of themshow the most recent posts. They show you the whatever's popular that youknow. You can switch to the most recent feed, but that's not whatthey're showing you by default. Post often show that you have an active socialmedia presence. That's going to look look great for your audience because that's goingto let them know that you that they can stay updated with you and alsocommunicate through social media. Meaning of anybody comments, like the comment and youknow you just say thanks the comment. Stay active, stay involved on thesocial media with your show instant I will tell you right now. INSTAGRAM isthe place to be for podcasts because you can do so many things with promotionalart, promotional videos, my show with a little my show is a littleNSFW. But if you feel so inclined, to check out our instagram to getsome ideas. I don't tell your parents I said that you had to, but I'm there's some for a teacher. So they're they've heard worst. Thisis this is new for me. I don't know what I'm legally allowedto say and not say. You guys, go check out our instagram. Youlet me give you the handle, because I'm it's early in the morningfor me and I don't and I'm blanking on if there's an underscore or notin it, because we have problems with that. TBL pod, a tblunderscore pod. Tbl underscore pod. We Post. I post on there.I try to post on their every other day. reminded. I just puta put up a new post today because our new episode dropped. I'm goingto wait a couple days and put up another post reminding them of the newepisode or directing them to our patreon or to our twitter or leave a reviewor something. But yeah, the biggest advice I can have is just stayactive on the social media and, like I said, I'll leave my contactand fote with with Arran's. You guys can reach out to me any timeyou want. I will follow for follow and I can. I really hope. I want to hear. I want to hear you guys as shows oncethey're ready to be heard. I really want to hear here here the thefirst episodes of all your shows. I'm looking forward to it. I lovethe ideas all you guys have. All right. Well, thanks again,Mike. Thank you, I appreciate it and we'll talk again soon here.All Right, folks, that'll do it for this week's episode of the BasementLounge. If you want to follow US Online, you can follow Mike Wellson twitter and instagram at Mike WTF Wells, and you can follow me, MikeShay, at Mr Mike Shay on twitter and Instagram as well. Youalso follow this show on twitter in Instagram at tbl underscore pod, and wegot a brand new website under construction for you guys, with some cool newstuff coming down the line as well, so stay tuned for that. Inthe meantime, we'll cut you guys again the next week with another episode anduntil then, as always, live well, rock on, take care and bubbye.

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