The Basement Lounge
The Basement Lounge

Season 2, Episode 9 · 11 months ago

The Hardest Year to Write Jokes


How has this year affected joke writing? How will Warner Bros. decision affect the film industry at large? Who was the best Joker?

This week, Mike & Mike talk about:

  • The struggles of writing jokes during a pandemic
  • WB releasing its 2021 slate of films on HBO Max
  • Just how f***ing good Heath Ledger was as The Joker

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I really want to play this game.I know iawas talking about was like I've been waiting for this, so I waslike fuck it abought it. I know Ol, the last trailer I saw I was the one wherethey where they dropped, that Kiano was in and I was like fuck. I need this AyJesus... final mean it's a great five PA,probably like ten hours. I'm like, I don't even know how far IAM into itit's so good, though so fucking good I've been. I bought the new spider man.I haven't even had a time to like install t and play yet, though I justwanted to go and and get it well because, because with with that andthen the avengers game, if you buy them like now on the old Gen, you catn get a freeupgrade o the to the next Gen. so I fuck, I s gutting! Guess I'm not Gointo get a PS five, the probably next year and then well today, ps, I meanxbox. No reason I was like told myself February, told myself have you that waslike fuck onwers. I got it because it' on Twitt I got on twitter and bes bywas trending. 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I've decided what it is yet because usually it would be like go,take a trip or go to a concert or something o can fucking do that rightnow, so I don't know my Buddy Matt Ren it out an entire because they'redropping the new wonder woman on a Christmas Day yeah. So they rented outan entire movie theater Christmas for Christmas to watch the new onder onetmuch that gut one fifty something like that yeah you want to ask eeople wantedto go. I got to work Christmas, unfortunately, but it's fine shoul,Chang holiday pay, but bang back two and a half times Christmas Eve andChris Misday Cool, Oh yeah. I missed out on it for Thanksgiving, but that'sfine. Now what do you think about Wha's? Thelast time we talk about when the h Max... releasing then Tho was it warnerbrothers? I think, leasing every yeah they're going to push everything onthere, r they're going to release it the same day on hb Max and in theaters. I want tohow much to lose. I think theyre well honestly, at this point this it's goingto at least gain them, something because they fucking a buddy of mine, abad earlier like the way, the way th y. The way they pay for their movies islike they write the checks and then they pay off the checks with theprofits from the movie once it gets release. So they've already producedall these fucking movies and written all these checks for movies that aren'tbringing any money in y gotta gets son. So they got to get something. That'swhy you know so t e, and they said this is only for,like t o thousand an twenty one, to get this shit out and get it Roling,because they can't just sit on. I mean wonder, O supposed to comeout last yearyeah. So I honestly, I g T. I got a lot ofthoughts about it. On the one hand, I'm kind of like I want I want them to, I think theyneed to strike up a better. If they're going to do this, they got to strike upa better deal with movie theaters, and it's like, if you're going to drop thison streaming the same day as in the theater, then maybe you shouldn't betaken a hundred percent of the ticket sales to yeah like start going likefifty fifty or some shit, and I think that this way I think,becaus a lot of times. You go to the movies nowadays and you got just likethe people who are on their phones the whole fucking time who bring their twoyear olds to a fucking. You know a Venger's movie or some Shit. I think Ithink what you'll see is those kinds of people are going to stay home and thenthe people who are actually going to like go for the theater experience.Well go more, so I think it'll kind of balance itself out, but it's going totake time and I think everyone needs to also just remember like it's notpermanent yeah. ' It's just hin every fook, their shit on that like like it,was permanent woh yeah because you read the headline and it says WarnerBrothers, all content going to HBOMAX Twentn in two thousand and twenty one ait's like right, because Shit's not going to be open. Yet I'm wondering Iwonder, of HBOVER ret them a check for that. Well, they own HBO. Oh, I didn'teven know that yeah they own HBO. Well, then, that answered my Fyeah at'.That's why they're doit, because because WEU go on Hbo Max, likeanything, that's DC is on HB MAC, yeah! Well, Snyder cuts coming out soon.Isn't it I don't noslee. I know it's coming outnext year, but yeah yeah, but like early next year, but they're going todo it in like four parts. It's going to be like four one hour chunks. I neverwatched the original. I liked it. It wasn't great. You couldtell that there was problems behind the scenes like because, like Zack ssnyder had toleav halfway through yeah, because f the thing with his kid and then I guessJos Weden was being a fucking piece of shit on set. I know they just concludedlike their fucking lawsuit investigation or whatever. Oh really,the guy who played Sib work was like when they said they were going torelease. They were going to let Zach Snider do his version, like the guyplayed sywork like went off on Jos weedn and like accuse them all kindslike really racist, shit and warder brothers did this whole investigationand then they released some state. The...

...othe day. That said, like ourinvestigations concluded and consequences, will be handed out. Nd Iwas like Oh shit and then, like the next day, Jo sweeden AD nasty wasdropping off some projects. So I'm like my fucks better get, can damn yeah so,but I mean they gave. They gave Zack Nider like fucking, sixty million to dothis thing, like he's, basically shooting a new movie, what they hem shooting like extrascenesfor, didn't they ol they yeah, because Jos Weden went, he had shot awhole bunch of Shit. You can. You can tell in the movie when, if you watch itnow what was shot by Zach Snider and whatwas shot by jazs won. Anyway, it's really fucking awkward, and so they said that like but the's, going toreshoot like think like two thirds of the movie- Ohmy God, and there wes, because there was all kinds of stuff in the in themovie that just like you look at the bad guy, he looked like unfinished CGIyeah they were. I was watching something the other day about the worstCGI yeahever top twenty wor CG ever and number nineteen was entire fucking, nojust lik moving! Oh my God. The CGI was awful because you could tell theyd likedid it at the last second and and did a Shitty job of it. Like there's at onepoint where, like they're supposed to be standing out like on a lawn and itlooks like they're standing on a fucking sound stage like at no point,does it look real at all so they've already released, like some footage,they've gone back and readone is like it already looks, just tighter so butlike there was a whole thing with like there was GT. Supposedto, be a wholebunch of scenes, a dark side in them that just never got shot and all kind of e crazy. That movie got like Fucke Nineways TheSunday man is aloit, almost bole your mind that they should have just notreleased it. They should have like they should have pushed it back and justgiven them more time, but they tried to like make this fucking release datedeadline and it's like whete they're trying, I think, feel like they're, I'mtrying to compete with Avenger so much that theyaw have to do something thenfilm that Shitty of a fuck- I never everybody complain about it. So much Iwas like I can't yeah. I can't see this it's I will sayI think a lot of the christisms were overblownbecause. That's just how theInternet is nowadays, yeah something's either amazing or it shit it. You know, but I mean but like the criticisms arefair I's Tink, that they got a little like yeah, it's not a great movie, butlike I can watch it. It's fine! It's just it's like a it's like a lessermarvel movie. You know, so I am excited what I'm going to do before the Snydercut comes out. I'm goingto watch it and then I'm going to watch this niter cuy,Oh really, yeah, wouldn't do it. I did that I did that with with BatmnvSuperman, because you know it came out and I liked the original version of it,but then they released the the ultimate edition- and I was I was still writingfor the examiter at the time, a d. So I got to go to Columbus, to watch a pressscreening of the directors cut and it was like night and fucking day. Was itlike Holy Shit? This is better than the other one like it made me like theoriginal one less because it like it... made me realize there wereproblems with it that I didn't notice before, because they just did it betterin the ultimate cut like is that out Dan? You Watch Elthmacu, Oh yeah,that's like the only version they go by now like if you go by the Blue Ray.That's the version you're getting Shitan know that I want ther e. it'slike it's it's three hours instead of two and a half, but like they've changed the order. Some of thescenes are in so like the movie kind of flows better, and it's like thirtyseconds here, twenty five a it fills in like so many fucking plotholes in that movie.It's like make sense like like. Why would anybody think Superman did theygot shot? But then you find out that, like there was a whole sequence where,like after they killed these people, they went and set their bodies on fire.So it looked like he heat vision in to death, and it's like Oh yeah. It doesmake sense, not sure why we cut that out, but yeah all right, cool yeah, it was ire, was a lot and T etewas like one FBOMB, it's just being new yeah suposed to be an F bomb in theSnider Cut. To is talking about it being like rateed ar and I'm like allright. Fuck, it drop it. I mean whokay, Loagan Logan was rated art. Both deadpools been rained. Ar Is gfuck great movie. Look, it's amazing. fuckingmovie. I saw that in theater after work, my buddy and I went and watched it. Anremember, Tha that opening scenry fucks up the dudes fuck. I was just like Ohshit as he stabbs one of them you like well. This is what I want iis all right, yeah.This is this is what I was hoping for, and fucking joker was rated or I mean Imade over a billion dollar holy shit that movieis good, and I think they Iread Ar Story that they try to pitch the story like the movie ultra lit likea budget wise, so it wouldn't get made and he's lie. Okay, I can make it: Ohno shit, yeah I'll work for debt, see the opposite happen r for the firstdeadfool because they kept slashing their budget. It started out with likea hundred million dollar budget. I think final. Their final budget waslike sixty five million for that first, one really, but then it made ninehundred something million dollar, so they were kind of like yeah that workedthere because they cut the budget to the point where he tolgd hi e, couldn'thave the writers onset because it couldn't afford to pay him. 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Ledgers, Joker, Oh yeah, but like Walis, take on the joke.wher is like so it's so hard like. Then you got Jack Nicholson and Anhe likeyeah they're, all three different things, but like what can just like you saw thedevelopment. Oh S, yeah the person coming the joker and then- and I was alittle. I was a little weird because, like I kind of Isjust, because I'm suchan Ubernerd, I was like I kind of don't want the jokers origin story, but thenalso like, especially because Yo get to that end scene and it's kind of likeyou, Kno fucking idea of anty. This is because, especially once once you findout that the girl tha, the relationship was all in his head. Yeah, it reallymakes you go. is any of this even fucking real? I can't trust anything. That's yeah, O!That's kind of what my my big Havya with hit was was kind of like andthat's kind of. Why one of things I love the baddest, because now you can'ttrust anything in this movie. A never thought about that. Yeah e never thought about tha, and I thinkthey did that. I think that was. I think that was on purpose because theywant you to like, because that's also been a big thing in the commens withthe joker. All the time is there's like eight different origins for him,because you never know. If he's telling the truth or not yeah the only one,anybody really goes throhis the killing jog, which is great, but but again,that's also like the heat ledger thing. Every time he was like you want to knowhow I got these stars had like three different fucking stories on I gothestan he hi es pill. Ist Can do it almont to my Cleveland Voice, so ha got these scars now how we gottheir Scar Shit? How can I do it? I'm like a dog.You want to ow how I got these scars yeah. You got to get that ar just right.I had a watch like fucking, I still suck at the voice, but I try ie watchmonts how to do it and it's like how he fucking like doeshis yeah that voice? It's so good, it's so it's so like. Iwatch so much shit a character. It's... I'm obsessed like now obsessed,but just so much background on that, like how like carefully, I don't wantto wind up how he did yeah Lihe went fucking like like what whatman in the moon did the Jimmy Tedim to Jim Carrey yeah becoming FUC. Did youever watch that documentary part? I part of it that that movie turned Jim, carry to afucking winel? He basically thought he was channeling at one point, somethinglike that yeah then he actually like he would beat up fucking. What's hisface, the wrestler yeah UCK and Hen, the rest was like. No, you don'tunderstand like we were, like friends and j Harry's trying to Piss. I remembercrecen Jim Carey's, trying to piss him off o yeah because he fucking like became AndyCoufin, yeah nd, Andy Cofbin was not not all there. I mean now it's just fuck yeah yeah he's ledgers. Jokerman is likeagain like it's so like you'll, never be able to like pull you seenabody, pull from thatwithout it seeming like an imitation exactly because it was so fuckingunique yeah. Well, I think I watched something about. I think director. Ican't think of his name. Al Son, Chrysnal Chris Nolan said that or what maymen Arini aredeker ICARTsaid that like when they were doing their lines, hewould still have the makeup on, even though he wasn't filming that day. Justso, Aaron could be like what stuff so ie like no like what the fuck what but he was like. You know he people dpeople making jokes about methodactors all the time I mean he was like themost method of fucking methodactors, like ever even in movies. He was in.Thar were shit like he was always good yeah. He was great, probably any movie,I can't think of any movie. He was bad in no, I mean I don't like anight'stail, but he's good in that he's Gein the movie yeah. I don't like a nights taile, becausefor me I just can't get over midieval people going m. Now man, that's that's elevencensory shit there o because like as after he died, they didthat that Dr Pronassis movie, where it was like they had to get like Johnny, Depp andJude Law, and all those guys to what's his face. Also Com, farrel, CON FerrelYeah. Think ferntroyer was in that toofucking Mitni me Moie. That movie is a trip, a movielike don't watch that movie high. Now that movie is a tru but yeah like fucking ten things I hateabout you. Actually I fucking love that movie. I don't give a shit. It's suchan infraverence. I seen it it's such a early, twosand late S, Teen Rong COMP,it's fucking funny. I don't care mostly because af heat letter, but he's goodin at Yeah Noi. Just I don't know that characteritself and then watching the joker. Now,... Wakin's joker, it's like that. Youcan't compare the to because they're completely different, but they're bothso well done that you're, like Jesus Christ like so I still don't know I still lean towards like heath, somuch he's just so chaos I saw I saw a thing online wherethey were breaking down all the different jokers. When you look at likehow each joker we've had on film has been like, like the joker, the joker asmany parts, and each one we've had on film has been like a focus on. One ofthose parts like Nicholson's was the the goofy gangster ledgers was the was the anarchist andthen and then Wakens was the the mental instability h, the mentalpatient side, and then even even jared lettos was was for what little we gotwas like the the dranged violent sign that you take all of that together toget mark hamels joker, which is were just the fucking, the greatest joker Ial so Fuckit Best Luke Skywalker. I The I remember theday. I learned that I was like fucking nine years old. I think the mostfuckdup thing is like about Mark Hamel, not fucked. Up? U, I think the crazestpart was like yeah, he one of the greatest charactersin cinematic history, but then he also plays the voice of the joke y andyou're likethis. Guy Look, everybody knows you fucking Looke, Skywalker sureand then like Oh, my way, he voices the joker at least once a year. I findmyself telling someone that for the first time they ga lit. I looked. Ilooked up his voice credits the other day, always mash. It is insane likestuff. I never what it would have guessed little shit to big shit.Stubbin video games like he was the voice of Wolvarine and a fucking videogame n that point yeah, the the XTWO video game. He was Wolerene fuckingstuff from I don't know. If you ever watched regular show on carton network.Yes, he was skips. Was He really e was skips? I wonder why he just DOESD. Hejust do it because he want something to do. I think he's just he's a fuckingnerd man like I've watched him like give speeches about like when he firstgot the call to come to Thatman, because originally they wanted timcurry to be the joker. I didn't know that yeah and but I guess they didn'twant him, because he was also doing Captain Hook on the Peter Pan Cartoonand they didn't want it to be like the same thing voice for two but like hewas talking about like when he heard about the show he was talking about,like all the different characters he wanted to voice and this and that andthe other and the's like then they offered me the joker and I was justkind of like Huh. He talks about like being like, like onthe highway practicing his laugh and making voices and people just likestaring at him. Like he's losing his fucking mind, while he's driving andshit, he doesn't need the money. I don't think he' had alotof money fromStar Wars, yeah, Oh yeah, because that l they were well. I don't know if you Ithink now he does. I know for the longest time his kind of a thing withstar wars so, like they, George Lucas,...

...had the had the forcesight to get themerchandising rights in his contract and Fox was like basically like that's,okay, we don't give a shit because everybody thought star what was goingto be a fucking fly so but yeah I mean Mark Hampbell, just onhis star war, kickbacks alone I mean theguys he's fine. I think he just loves doing it. Probably he I think he I selthe commercial himens, Sir Patrick. Oh the over eats came yeah like you like.I think it just likes doing that like when you watch a commercial and youthink, just like you said you think he just like think he just likes doingthat stuff say with Patrick Stewart. Really he I remember is: Is this greatstory? My Dad told Momy Dad was a huge star, treck fan, so you go back andwatch like the Blueber reels from like the first season of star Treck TNJ,like none of them are Patrickstewart real and he was such because he wasfresh off of like the Royal Shakespeare Company and he was such a fucking likehard core perfectionist so that people were fucking up on set like he wasgetting pissed off and so finally, like the cast pulled him aside, o like dude,it's fucking TV like you, need to Shill the fuck out like he had such littlefaith in the show. He like lived out of his suitcase for the first seasonbecause he was just so sure it was going to bomb. Then I guess like whenhe fucking like relax a little bit if you watch the bloope reals from all theother seasons. It's like half him really just like just cracking up andlike he's, got an amazing sense of humor like now that he's like kind ofgotten over himself a little bit, because he was first start now. He wasso fucking high serious about about it, acting because British acting schoolsdo that too yeah yeah. I did not know that yeah, my dadwas o Star dreck man,he's told me all these fucking stories from like going to conventions and Shite was star track man I never knock. I was Sora Star Wars, but never knockstar track, just ther're, just two different things, a I love them both.You know I looked at it as like star wars as might go to for, like you know, the big blockbusteryexplosions and space battles of Shit and star Treks, like you know, 's mysoap, opera, Ey guys thanks for joining us foranother episode of the basement. Lounge. If you enjoyed this and you want tolearn more about the show, learn more about me and Mike go to our website atbasement loungepodcom, and if you want to become a member of our VIP team.Just join our patreon go to Patreoncom S, tvl underscore pod for just threedollars a month. You can help support this show and get acxs to all kinds ofreally cool rewards. You can follow Mike Wells on twitter at Mike Wt flls,and you can follow me Mike Shay at Micho, valchays on twitter andinstagram w. We back again next to me with a new episode. You guys until thenis always live well, rock on take care and a.

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