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Season 0, Episode 5 · 2 months ago

Interview with Emily McGill | The VIP Table #5

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Everybody welcome back into a newinstallment of the vip table here at the basement. Lounge podcast, my nameis mike shale, be your host again today, and we've got a very special guest. Youguys are really going to enjoy we're going to have some fun on the show.What reminds you guys this show is sponsored by pod. Dex pod text is thenumber one way for you to supplement your podcasting game, whether you renewbe or a veteran, you get decks of cards with episode, ideas, interview,questions of all different types as well as cool merchandise, like hats andt shirts had im ever to pod. Decom use the co tbl ten, it's tbl one, zero getten percent off your total purchase, add check out, and i may or may not geta kick back. It is what it is. That being said, let's move on, let's bringon our guest for this week. She is a terror card, reader, broadway of fishin ato, all kinds ofwe're go we're going to learn all about it. I don't want on't now spoilanything right now we're going to have a lot of fun with this person, let'sbring on emily mcgill emily mcgill welcome to the vip table. Thank you somuch for coming on the show today thanks my thanks for having me, ireally appreciate it. Absolutely you've got a background in theater. You've got a background interroar reading. You got a background of we're going to we're going to gointo this. This thing blind and get to know you fresh, let's, let's start off,because i'm an old theater kid. I really want to talk about thisbroadway stuff. I want to know like where that started for you were were tothe acting bug. First bica, oh man, my parents potman dancing school. When iwas three years old, two and a half, because you know you need somewhere toget all that energy out and when i was twelve, i got hit by the bug the stagebug for musical theater and i grew up in pittsburgh. So i went to aconservatory there you know school. Did it in college already knew that ididn't want to be a performer by the time i graduated from college, but ididn't really know that there were other options in the theater to have ajob besides being on stage or being like on stage group right and you moveto new york and you find out there's an entire business ecosystem around us.There are people that work in marketing advertising general and companymanagement and the day to day management of the show. You know youhave a publicity office. You've got the digital marketing team. You know thereare so many different people that it takes to put together a show, and i landed in a pr office and started doingbroadway pr and just absolutely fell in love with it. So i've been doing wellpr now i call it sorry. That's on my end, and i thought i turned everythingoff it's so i started doing pr for broadway shows andi absolutely loved it, and now i consider myself more of acommunications consultant. I think that pr is one aspect of a much largerconversation about how we communicate with the world. What our ideas are, howwe express ourselves and artists and creatives always have these amazing,like crazy, abstract ideas and oftentime struggle with how tocommunicate that information into the world, and so that's sort of where icome in on my pr communication side, especially working with people that aresort of at the intersection of technology and theater looking to pushforward what is possible. You know this pandemic is at taught us that theateron the internet is not as crazy of an idea as we once thought it was, and soyou know working with people that are looking to now move into all kinds ofdifferent digital, theatrical ideas. So...

...it's been really exciting. Despitechallenges of you know, entire industry being shot down over the last fifteenmonths, yaas been great. I've seen a lot of it.You know, because everybody who was stuck at home, you know as a podcast orsuddenly everybody was like i'm going to start a podcast now and but what wasgreat wasn't- and these were a thing before- was i've seen so many scripted podcasts that were done as afictional see. I was part of one myself and so yeah finding those new avenuesto to translate to do a medium transfer, different tubs of tamas, but has been alot of fun, and you mentioned that the importance of being the communicationsconsultant have the pr is one aspect i think- and we see this in the filmindustry as well. People who are you know us the layman's people, don'tthere's that there's that aspect of behind the scenes with withentertainment, people just just don't understand when they hear that a movie made a lot of money but didn't turn aprofit. And you know they don't take into account things like advertisingand communications and public relations and things that factor into that aswell. So having that communications focus in theinter in the entertainment world, like you do, do you find that it's kind of shaped or maybe a tweet, yourperspective on theater in general? Absolutely it's given me such adifferent perspective on entertainment period. You know not just live eventsor live theater but or live entertainment period. You know i'veworked on all kinds of different things in my career. Yes, i started inbroadway but have had the opportunity to work on films and tv shows andstreaming projects and h, bo documentaries and i've worked with youknow. I worked once on the nobel piece prize concert: i've worked with yeah.I've worked with male strippers like not kidding, it's really run the game,you know so i mean literally no belpie price concert and like a gay stringquartet to male strippers, you know like it really goes far which what so you going on this weekend.Well, i got to go plan. A black tie thing for the tel peace core and theni'm hanging out with with the black diamonds how you low, no yeah magic men live. There was nomagic. They were just, and they were the kindest sweetest guysfrom michigan. That just happened to take their clothes off for a living.You know, but but it really you're right it does. Itgives you a whole perspective of what it takes to put something together. Youknow we never really consider, and i think film is probably the easiest wayfor most people to understand it. You hear that you know a film is being madethat it has been cast that it is being shot. You know a good example that alot of people were obsessing over were like these pictures that were coming oflady god, god adam driver off of this movie about you, know, guchi, or i think it's guji, one of the designerswhere you know they're like in all this italian luxury and everybody can't getenough of these photos, but you don't think about how long it took forwhoever is idea it was in the first place to make it did they have like wasthe script written already? Was it a producer that had the first idea? Didit get optioned by a studio? You know where, where did this process start?Who did it start with? There are so many different ways that projects cancome to life and i think, as you said in this pandemic, it's been so amazinthat you know one of the things that i've been saying since the beginning isthat this sort of desperation breeds inspiration and creativity and at thebeginning, when everyone just didn't know what to do with themselves. All ofa sudden, like you said, everyone started going well, i can do this and ican do that and i can do this and i...

...think we're going to find a reallyinteresting boom in the next, probably two to three years of creative projectsthat started during the pandemic and will now be percolating out into theworld. So i'm really excited to see the growth of the projects that were seatedduring these last fifteen months of of challenge. I think we've already seensome aspects of that. I mean there was a. I don't know if it's still on or not,but there was a tv show that was going to free form or something that wasabout people living during the pandemic. One was an elderly couple. One was acouple that had just started dating one was some newly weds and- and you know,we've seen it with music. Is i mean the amount of the amount of music? That'sbeen coming out? That's this pandemic al all great to because what do thepeople have to do other than sit around and in just write stuff so has been, has been flooring and we'veseen you know like in law, and order, where sobbing they're having to showeverybody wearing masks and how the courtrooms have changed. I mean theycan't they can't ignore it. It's a part it's this will be talked about inhistory classes and twenty r history, yes yeah. So with with how? How is this whole fiasco of the last year and ahalf affected you personally as far as like what, because again with with theterror card readings and which will get into it a little bit and with the withthe theater side of things, how was it? How was this all affected you? Itreally gave me an opportunity. The pandemic allowed me to stop. I foundmyself sort of on a path that i didn't really need to end up on. I was youknow, an independent communications consulted working with clients notreally lit up as much as i had been by the work that i'd been doing in thepast, and so it really became an opportunity to pause and reflect. Ialso had covil like at the very beginning. You know, i'm in new yorkcity, we shut down h, broadway, shut down march, twelfth march thirteen. Youknow the rest of the city and of started following those marching ordersand by the end of the weekend everything was shut down the followingweekend. I got a positive covin task. While i watched a friend of mine getmarried in tennessee on youtube, no because i couldn't go to her wedding, iwas you know and thank god i didn't, because i was coved positive, and so ispent some time just feeling and reflecting, and you know allowing mybody to do what it needed to do to move through my system. I was very fortunatein that the majority of my symptoms. Didn't you know i don't have. I don'tthink i have it long coid that some people have had my sense of smell andtaste came back pretty quickly. You know i have friends that are stilldoing sense. Like training, you know theyhave to do like physical therapy for their ma sense of smell, which is likebunkers, but i was really lucky that none of that was part of my experience, but it did. It gave me a chance to sayokay, how did i get right and what do i want to do going forward? Doi want to stay in the theater you know and after george floyd was murdered?There were so many systemic issues that have previously been existing for yearsand years and years and years, but we're finally brought more to thesurface, and i do a lot of work with the black broadway communities to beginwith, i'm a co host of it. A month, late industry, dance party called snobsunday night on broadway. That is it's so lit. We have two djs that are mypartners and the music is just amazing and we have a great time dancing andjust kind of blowing off them as a community once a month, but i realizedthere was more. I could be doing so. I started doing probonopublico artistswhere they write their own press release and i then help them edit itand make sure that it still captures their voice. And then i share it withmy pretty sizable media list of live...

...entertainment, theater folks, and ifanybody's interested i'll connect that artist correctly with that press personand say here you go and now that artist can start to cultivate their ownrelationship with the press, and there have been some great things. You knowthere was an opera about black documentary about black opera singersthat got a little mentioned in the new yorker. You know and like it, thingshave really come a bit for some of these folks, which has been reallyexciting and that felt like a direct response to what was happening in theworld. I felt like i can use my tools and my place and my ability in theworld to step into this sort of new age as a bit of a leader and say no there'smore, i can ring i'm i'm such a big dona fan, but i'm fascinated bycausality and i always throughout everything- that's happened within thispast year and a half everything with you know with george floyd and andblack laves matter, and you know you can't help. At least i can't help, butlook at like. Had we not been in this pandemic, everybody stuck at home,where there weren't as many distractions anymore. You know how didthat affect the response. Things like that, look in the mirror over the lastfifteen months and face what faced us and some people have done that work andsome people have chosen to start exploring themselves. You know i'vealso been in therapy for seven years, so i think that, having done a lot of the work prior tothe pandemic hitting, i was in a very privileged position that i had a lot ofthe tools that i needed to continue to have posit mental health throughout theprocess. But you're right. You know we all have been sitting at home andsaying: okay, where in the world is this coming to me, and how can i beactive in making a difference or choosing to bury our head in thesand and that's some people's choices to right and the world's going to keepspinning either way we like to invite everyone along withus into the future moving forward? Not you know getting back right, we'relooking forward to what can come from all of this but yeah in process. I canyou know, and it's weird i am famous for playing devil's advocate and youknow trying to see all sides of ben issues. So whatever i do hear about orsee those people who bury their head in the sand. You know,as somebody who is known for you know, having a struggle with sensory overloadand, and you know, with mental health and all that there are times- and ialso i work in- i work in news media. So there there are times where it'slike yeah, it can be overwhelming and i can understand the urgee to just just pretend it's not happeningbecause it can. It can be so overwhelming, but i also recognize you know the morethat that does in the grand scheme of things kind of do more harm than good.But i also i know a lot of people like to initially say like. Oh, if you'reyou know, if ignoring the issues or whatever your part of the problem islike not, i also feel like not. Everyone is equipped to d is asequipped to handle those issues talking about them or otherwise, as otherpeople might be, and it's hard to it's hard to walk that line. Sometimes- and i will you know- devil's- advocateyour devil's esitate and say that there are some people whose process is toignore it until they feel prepared to deal with it and approach it, and thenthey move through it, and that is how you know that's their process as to howthey move through things. I'm very much.

I have a lot of those tenentes myself.You know a lot of. I will avoid a void of wit, avoid until i can't any longerand then all of a sudden, it's like. Well, i really have to deal with thisor else i'm. You know i'm going to have a bigger problem on my hands, but ithink the pandemic has taught me in the last year that even my avoidance has changed rightlike the way i stick my head at the sand. It used to be, you know, likezoning out with games on my phone. You know smoking a little weed and likelaying in front of the tv- and you know yeah sure all of that is still in mylife, but it's just the way that i do it. The feelings are allowed to come ina way that they don't necessarily feel like they're, going to drown me the waythey previously did. So you know i do see the value in having to move throughyour own process of i need to stay my men in the sand and oftentimes. It'sfear based right. Also, it's that i'm afraid that if i face whatever thisthing is in front of me, i'm not going to survive like even if it's an ocna or responseit feels like it is actually threatening your life, and you know how i mean i'm no mentalhealth practitioner anyway, shame or form. Let me make that very clear, buti've done a lot of this work myself, and it has become really helpful to me to to explore it. That way- and i thinkthat's also important to is i all at the same time i i have a heart. Youknow i don't like when someone says they need to, or i see in some as it's the evidencesomebody having to you know, stick their head in the sand. I'm going tokeep you in that meta for because it's great, i also look at it as i don't want them tobe taking on an issue if they're not ready.You know you want someone to be at their best to take on a serious issue,otherwise they're probably going to. I can make it worse. So if someone sayshey, i can't deal with this right now. I'm gonna come back to it later. Youhave, to kind of you know, give him the benefit, the doubt and trust that whenthey do they'll be in a place where, when that, when they do handle it it'llactually be effective, right, yeah, yeah and actually is a really greatsegue. I don't know there are other things but into the terro, because terohas helped my mental health as well. I was initially introduced with i mytherapist, oh really, yeah. She was the one i would start pulling cards withher in a session from time to time. If i didn't know how to be bored withsomething or had a question about something we'd pull a card and about, iwould say, probably four or five years ago now, i started looking to add adaily practice to my life and she suggests i pull a card and i didn't ownany decks. So i got down with a map on my phone and i started learning thatway. Is it the? Is it the golden the golden terro ap?Now i used one o shows an teroahante if you're familiar with wild wild country,which was a netflix documentary about a group in oregon in the s that was on acommune. That's a problem, philip community. Their guru is o sho. It isthe one in the same osho, excellent terroe, but today we're going to use one calledthe wild edon, which is by kim carnes and all of the imagery in this is allanimal based. So there are no people represented, which i really like.That's really cool, that's actually very clever. Yeah, let's go ahead.Let's go ahead. Let's transition into talking about your experience andpractice with terra i was i was. I was a practicing wigan for brief number of years. During my e...

...during my post catholic religiousexploration, which, on hapoth most of us catholics, we either go with orpagan after one extreme to the next, but a d, a d,and i still have many friends as still practice i i've moved on, but i still do. I havethe golden terror app on my on my phone, it's become kind of a. I do think it'simportant for a person to have a ritual of some kind, and that's that that'smine that and watching the super bowl every year, because it's on a sunday soat least i'm trying and yeah it's so weird. So you mentioned that yourtherapist is the one that introduced you to all this yeah. My therapist was. I started going to therapy after mygrandmother passed away in the summer of two thousand and fourteen in, andyou know, most people e to sort of like dating try a few different people before itworks out, but i really looked out the first therapist i went to i'm stillwith her seven years later and actually he were like. I think you you'repracticing other modalities now i think we can pull back a little o fit waslike a good great. Like that's my amazing, but she is you know i used to call hermy white witch or my like magical spirit guide in many ways, because shereally did open my eyes to spirituality and and creating my ownpractice. You know i don't really label myself in any one way she perform otherthan i will often say, i'm a witch, because i think that that has it's a it can be a loaded word for alot of people, but the thing that i like about it is that it allows me to have a personal practice. It's trulypersonal. You know that some things that even my best friend who she and ido a lot of things together. We have different ways of practicing our ownspirituality or personal experience with our highest powers. Our spiritguides are ancestors so yeah. She, my therapist, really allowedme to open the door to this exploration, and that was that's been going on sevenyears now. That's really that's you know i staying on every thing, but also likewith with the mental thing like i tried therapy it. It wasn't for me, but ialso had a really difficult mot fun experience with it. So it's one ofthose it's like i'm good, but it's glad i'm glad that it's that it's beenworking well for you that you were able to find someone that you connectedreally well with and that through that you were introduced to something that'sbecome a major part of your life now and how have you? How have you worked?You know not just a through therapy, but you've now got on to incorporatethis morn to your to your life at large as well. Absolutely you know i like tosay that tero is: there are a few different ways toexpress it, but it's a visual or external expression of information that we hold withinourselves. So it's information that we have in our heart, in our spirit andour gut, but has it going back to thecommunications right people that don't know necessarily how to express thething to the rest of the world, the terror to me, it is like acommunications consulted. It it visually or physically, expressessomething within us that we haven't quite wrapped our heads around or wedon't know how to articulate or we don't know how to herbalize. We don'tknow necessarily how to access this internal information andthen the cards show up and they just show us. They show us what what it isthat we're either frapping with, or maybe we have a question specificallyabout something away forward, and so the terro, as you know, so it's i love,have these conversations because...

...they're so organic. You knowcommunication, mental health tero to me. It's all wrapped up in the same thing that i that's. I think something that alot of people miss out on is finding ways to take all these aspects of yourlife and find a way to kind of make them sink up with each other. Like youmentioned that the communication and the therapy, the terain, all that inthe ways that they could be mutually beneficial to each other absolutely,and when you asked earlier about, you know what the pandemic, like myexperience during a pandemic. Ultimately it was about polishing theother facets of myself. Besides broadway theater this one thing thathad always sort of dominated my life, you know for almost thirty odd yearsand all of a sudden now, i'm welcoming in every aspect of myself to everythingthat i'm doing you know i m an advertising meetings for s a holidayshow that i'm going to be announcing this summer. It's going to be a greatlittle off, broadway show and technology keeps getting screwed up andi'm not embarrassed to say well, mercury's still in retro grade, so weshould have bein the middle of an off broadway advertising meeting. I'mtalking about mercury, retro great and like there's. No reason i should be,but there's also no reason i shouldn't be, because if we can't get ourtechnology to work, don't freak out about it. Folks, this is going tohappen three times a year for six to seven weeks that catch just the stars,that's how it happened. So you know, i think that, as you say, bringing all ofthe facets, all of the aspects to ourselves of ourselves to every tablethat were whether we're welcome to the table or we're showing up and flippingthe table. You know it's important to bring all of us at every one of thosemoments. Well, the idea of flipping at table. Idon't know why it's just i love it just show up and just flip the table overwe're not doing this this way anymore. Precisely because that's a lot of whatthe last year has offered us to we've seen a lot of systems and structuresthat don't work. So, let's start looking the tables and seeing what'sunderneath and how we can excavate it and find some pieces to build a newtable so before we before we get to the themain event as it were, we're going to do a terror reading on the show here,i'm no refence cards of my own through our our pod decks app, which they havea special deck called the future freaks me out, and i thought this was a goodone for for what we're going to do her. These are just some fun casualquestions. What you guys can get on the pod decks a check it out right now, start things off: let's go with. Whatdo you think people will rebel against in the future? What will people rebel against? Well? Teenagers are always going torebel against their parents, so i mean that's not going to change, i meanrather not even teenagers. Humans are always going to rebel, a answer againstthe systems and structures and things that they feel don't suit them or thatthey know better. You know, and so i think that we're going to continue tosee things that happened, been working being tested and and rebelled againstand pushed against until they top ll that we can create something that doeswork yeah. That's yeah lot of my. I look back on a lot of themistakes and mistakes decisions, i've made in life and ninety nine percent ofthem were at the sole purpose of hissing off my parents. You know i madeit got engaged at nineteen because ifigured it would piss my parents off so yeah, then we o. That is fine. What is onething you worry about when it comes to your future, o...

...only one play it safe for one. If you got morego nuts, ultimately, i think that it is. Are we how i'm worried about how we'recontributing to speeding up our floating rock in the universe? An'sdeath? You know, i mean i've been watching. Here's a series on discoveryplus called how the universe works. You know it's probably been on tv, for idon't know ten years, maybe more, i'm not sure i have just learned about itand i've been binging. This show learning literally about how things inthe universe work, starting with the big bang and moving all the way through.You know super novas and it's like they have these there theoretical physics,professors and like these people that do all this crazy stuff with scienceand the universe and talking about sapotacae and things, and so i'm lessworried about things, because i know we're all connected and there's so muchmore beyond us and beyond. You know this sliver of time that we're livingin, but it's still a little scary to think about how we're progressing our own decline. Yeah, i get it. I my youngest, my youngest brother, is very environmentally conscious, verygreen and before he started college, he was starting to try to courage us all to do different things.I was. I was living with everybody at the time and so like little things likewe started using glass containers instead of plastic ones, and now i'mi'm hooked, and now i'm like they're, oh my god. These are so they don't getthat weird orange tint on them. When you hold spaghetti sauce on in them forone they're easier to clean and er in the bridge, they make your leftoverslook more invited you're like oh. I actually think i want to eat thoseleftovers because they just got on those two glass containers. So you havefine china for your leftovers, it's fantastic, and so i love those you know.I've become a lot more big on recycling i bought. I i just bought my house lastfall needed a lawn mower bought an electric one and even last night youknow. I was fourth of july last night and driving around coming on from work whenthe fireworks going off. All that was going through my mind waslike all these explosions have got to be terrible for the environment. Allthis crab in the air is got to be so bad on the environment. Yeah. It's i always go back, hay look at us andnew york city. This week we had a heat wave and we got an emergency alert onour cell phones like it was an amber alert, saying please turn off your bigappliances and your air conditioners, and it's like just me, did you turn offtime square i live in. I live in ohio we get in insoutheast ohio. We salesa, we get those a lot to it. They'll say, like you know,they'll, let us know you know pollution levels. He levels are going to be thislike don't go out and drive your car unless you have to like, especially youknow, we're in such an automotive town. So i heard that south west yeah i all over, but so i heard a little of that, okay, asborn in erie, so i can hear it a yeah but yeah, like i remember, justdriving home last night. I was just like hold this sex. This is got to beso bad for the, but we got start giving a crap a little grow exactly i always go. I just i always default tothat, because you know whenever people witere are those other who was like.Why do you care so much? I default to the quote from from gardens to thegalaxy. Why do you care so much about the galaxy, because i'm one of theidiots who lives here hey? Why do i care as much about the planet because ilive on it, a right, yeah, so last one...

...i want to get to and then we're goingwe're going to we're going to get to this this terror reading? What is something you could if youcould purge one thing from your life to improve your future? What would it be?Oh gosh self doubt and imposter syndrome, ohyeah, because that to me they're one of thesame, so you know it's the the any sort of old stories that don't actually have truth to them. That have caused meto undercut myself in all kinds of different ways that i probably don'teven know about you know i have been even become aware of, but part of my journey through therapyhas been incredible self awareness, and so you know, i think i've done a reallygood job in eliminating a lot of that self down to casterton drum, but itcertainly comes up again. You know, even earlier this year, when i startedworking on this new show, that's coming in this fall was like. Am i and i'mqualified to do this? It's like that you've got twenty broadway shows onyour resume. You're fine, like you'll figure it out. Even if you don't knowhow to do it, you'll figure it out. You know, but that there was a really deepmoment of. Oh, my god i haven't. I haven't done this in a year and a halfmore, it's been. You know, many years since i've worked off broadway. Oh mygosh. What am i doing here? You know, but what are any of us doinghere? We're all making it up as we go along ahi' just trying to make sure i haveclean underwear every single day. That's all i care about all right soand we'll wrap some stuff up in a bit, but first i'm excited to do thisbecause i haven't done had anybody do this for me in a long time, so emily emily's gonna do a terror cardreading here on the show for us. So let's, let's get into this i'll, letyou do go. You take the range you know you know what to do from here. So we'regoing to do a three card pool j for those that are not familiar withthe terroe. I apologize with the shuffling there be a little bit of that.You'll hear, but also i want to give you a quick run down altara deck andset up. So there are two halves of the deck the major arcona and the minorcome and have our well. That's an is copper, because there are two partsexact. The major or conna are our magic arts. When they show up, we want to payextra special attrato to them. They also correspond to the human soul,evolution through enlightenment, so it starts toget the pool which is our zero card all the way up through the world, which iscard number twenty one. There are twenty two of them and the fool is verymuch sort of in a wing. We go very and we're off. You know: yellow brick, road,very fresh and runs at the very beginning of a journey n and it sort ofcycles through twice right. We have two two or three moments in the deck whereyou o things might feel like they are really challenging, and then we getanother sort of uplifting card coming after it. So the major conum movesthrough that human souls evolution minor cona, is set up much like atraditional playing deck. We have four suits, as through ten the biggestdifference is. We have four court cards instead of three, so usually it will bea king and a queen and either a knight and a page or a prince and a princess.This particular deck uses the traditional family structure of mother,father, son and daughter, and, as i said, this is the wild unknown, whichis by kim cars and uses all animal imagery instead of humans and all of it,so they're really beautiful cards, and i didn't know if there was anything inparticular. You wanted to explore today or if you wanted to do it generalreading. I you know i'd love to do a...

...general reading, simple right, so thefirst thing you're going to do is put the cards, so i'm going to flip throughthem and you're going to tell me when to stop sure, stop igto one of my favorite tree cardreadings is what will help you, what will hinder you and what is yourunrealized or untapped potential? Okay? So that's what we're going to do today,lovyes, so i will explain more as the car scillycome up, but for anyone that's listening and is curious about theterro or about a reading. You can, you know, find google it lookon mine. I mean there are so many different people practicing. It's nothard to find somebody either near you or doing virtual readings, and you canalso learn about the cards themselves. What the different meanings are thingslike that, so if any of these cards that come up right today resonate withyou, i encourage you to go. Do google and see see what s what it says youhave google machines in your pockets, folks everywhere you're using one tolisten to this multitask, all right, so we're readyfor the first one, absolutely right. So this is what will help you o the ten ofcups. So remember, i said the four suits have their four different. You know like a traditional thing, soour four suits also corresponds o be four elements, so our ones are our fire.That's our creativity, our passionate or thrive cups are our emotions, ourfeelings, that's water. Swords are air which is intellect mental ability,communication knowledge like book knowledge and then finally, pentices or disks are our earth, andthat is our physical or material or manifest. And so here we have the tenopot and the ace through ten cards. Similarly, to the major or connect sort of correspond tolike a journey in life right, we start the ace is like very new energy and theten is very full. An erg and the ten of cups oftentimes is saying to us likeyour it's sort of like a full heart. Your cup is all right, and so this issaying what will help you is that your cup is already full, the whateveremotional experiences you might have. You know people might try and slashyour splash some things out of your cup, but ultimately, your cup is always fool,because it's yours and you choose that. Okay- and this is i love this card imean the colors are so beautiful. You see that it's sort of got a weave a web.That's been woven of these of these cups altogether in this sort of rainbowpattern, it's really really beautiful and when you feel into it, i'm curiousif there's anything, that's resonating for you differently. When i hear the phrase youknow you know, your cup is full a lot oftimes. What i think i feel is i like to take on a million different things. I aproject, heavy guy. I love to stay busy. So what i'm? Whati'm, what i'm taking from this is is, it might be time to start cutting backa little bit. That's kind of what i'm taking fromthis a little is, i guess, between this and the job and doing stand up and andwriting directing things like that. It's like, okay, maybe it's time toscale back a little bit, so i did have to just do that with mybudget to because houses are expensive yeah to right. This is this is our cups.This is our emotional, so this is. This...

...is our feelings. This is our heart.This is what is happening so, while, yes, that might correspond to how yourheart moves through the world with all the different projects. You know,because i can guess simply by our connection and communication and this episode today, that when you are involved in something you do putyour whole heart into it, and so that's probably what it's saying to you is:you know if you're getting this feeling of, i need to pull back from some ofthese things that i'm doing. Maybe it's that you need to pull your heart backfrom it a little bit. You can still be involved. You can still, you know, be aparticipant, but maybe you're, not the leader, maybe you're, not a hundredpercent in the pool that day you're, just like you know, swinging your legsoff the side that it's not always up to you to carrythe bucket for everybody else's feelings. That makes a lot of sense actuallymakes a lot of sense. Yeah t ye, i tend to be the want. I tend tobe the everyone's shorter to cry on always have been my whole life, so yeah that yeah, and i think whatthis is saying is like what will help you. Is that remembering, like youryour own, shoulder to cry on first and foremost, and without that permission for yourselfand not focus on yourself in that sense, like you're, not going to be able tosupport any of the people that you love it's lot of sense and in tiriot of setsall right next one? So this is what will hinder you o. We have strength. So strength is one of our major r coniccards and it is hard number in this deck, its eleven strength andjustice, or sometimes inverted so you might find one is eightand the other one's eleven in different acts. So in this deck strength iseleven, and that comes a little more thanhalfway through our major or conte. I guess it is about the halfway point ormajor, a anna. You know it's the twelfth card, so this is moving throughthis journey of the soul's evolution and if you're able to watch on videoyou'll see that this upside down, if not, i just told you and oftentimeswhen people read terro and they see this, they called a reversal or aninversion. Folksies read this as the negativeinterpretation or you know the lower vibe interpretation of a card. Ipersonally read every card as though it has the entire spectrum of its meaning,no matter if it's upright or reversed, i like to read reversals as an internalinterpretation of this person external right, so we were just talking aboutthis kind of pups and how it deals with everybody sort of else around you aswell this strength. I think, ties into that, because this is saying like whatwill hinder. You is like not holding the strength yourself within yourself that not remembering that you have thatinternal strength. I mean this is the imagery of this card. Is so beautiful.It's a lion, a lot with an infinity symbol over its third eye. The sun isshining down on it. It looks like it's a leo card. You know it looks like it'slike the the absolutely astrological and leo interpretation. There is a rosein the in the mouth of the lion. We can see that it is. You know he's holdingin very gently very, very gently, and it's we don't know if there are thorns ornot, but we can see it's a lion with the rosinante now and so it's you know.I think this. This is saying too we're...

...as you're talking about being the shoulder for everyone elseand having an overfull plate and like this. Maybe this is like what willhinder. You is like not remembering your own strength and remembering thatstrength isn't always crushing. Sometimes strength is really delicate. That's the the rose in the mouth is.What always makes me think of that that the strength is strength can be reallydelicate. You know it's not always a pressing power and i'm trying to like tap in a little deep,more deeply. But what is this saying for you? What are you getting i meanfor me. You know. We've talked a lot about mental health.Today, on the show i mean i, you know self esteem. Self confidencehas always been a big struggle of mine. You know i grew up in the s where beinggeeky and overweight wasn't okay, so that's that's shaped a lot of you knowi would do it. I wouldn't do stand up if everything was holly and jolly. I dostand up because everything you know there are times were. I feel, likeeverything sucks. So absolutely you know definitely has been my biggest mybiggest to reduce the word hindrance throughout life has always been looking inward, not myself, and this is, i think this is saying,like you have the strength to do it and not doing it might be the hindrance. Like me, kind of goes back to the headand the same thing right. It's like war, you're not going to do it until you'reready, but you're, never going to feel like you're ready right. You know some. Sometimes it's amatter of this thing that has served me for solong really does no longer feel good. Like really does not feel good anymore.You know whether it's something like smoking or eating sugar, or you know,whatever all the wine we want to have whateverit is. I mean it could be anything it can be. Binging shows if poe playinggames on our phone. It can be sex like whatever the thing is that helps us tosort of turn off those feeling receptorsbecause it feels like it is too much like this. I think is saying remind you,like you, have the strength to turn them back on and move through it. Okay,i like that. It is a weird thing to say, but now i like that, i like that. Ilike that inside i like that interpretation al one. I think that definitely speaks to a lot of things. Istruggle with internally on a day to day basis, especially yeah, all right, i'm ready for what year isyour unrealized in tav potential? I'm hoping it's like the chosen one tobring down the dark side. But yes, let's, let's do this well. This is afive pentacle, which is looks like it's a dying rose and so remember our pentacles are ourphysical, our manifestor birth, and this is the five. So it's about halfway through, and this is about you know to me: it's like it's almost liketending your garden right, it's taking off the dead leaves and so that theplant can focus its energy on growing and moving forward, and i think thisliterally is the. This is like the physical manifestation of what we justsaid about the things that no longer feel good and letting go of that shit. You knowwhen it doesn't feel good anymore. If it doesn't serve you,...

...then why do we keep doing it because itwas comfort? It was comforting at one point, or it felt like it, kept us safeat one point and it probably did for wherever we were in the worldthrough our experience through the programming that have been given to us,you know through society and our families and everybody just kind oftrying to do their best, but still not i mean you know we're all out here:flailing, like a bunch of idiots on a rock floating in the middle of theworld and the universe like none of us, really know what we're doing but dropin the ship that doesn't serve us anymore, like that's how we we get to tap intoour real potential. That makes a lot of sense. I think formyself. I think a lot of people are can relate to this day, but for myself,especially like there, i i get attached to things and people a little tooeasily. It's an. I tend to i'm a caberon huh, but you probablyhave like a your rising is probably like cancer orices or something maybe do you know i've, no idea, o. You feel, like you, have that, likevery watery energy with you as well, i could bevery wrong, though, but for me like i know i tend to like i just i don't like to let stuffgo sure and yeah. I could blame that ud be an irish too, but yeah i tend tojust i. I add emotional value to. Let me, like everything, everything'san emotional experience for me, so you have vomerine day but yeah so true like because when youare moving through the world you're experiencing things through your likefixed earth cancer, is it fixed right? Isn't it i don'tknow i'm my astrology is not as strong as my terror, but you know you're moving through thatvery earthy sign, and that's your son sign. That's howyou move through the world. Rising is often times how other people see youmove through the world, but that's that's very common. You know, and for all of us two right, not justfor capitor, but for all of us to find something and we're like. Oh gosh. Thank goodnessthis works. This is the thing. This is the magic bullet, and then you knowmaybe it is for a while, but then we grow and change and involve ourselves. You know i mean whether it's an emotional evolution ofmental evolution. Physically none of us are the same literals, like cell beingthat we were even you know what like five years ago, i mean ourselves, areconstantly changing and evolving and dying and building new ones, so our physical form is doing it anyway, shedding that which no longer serves us,but our spiritual or emotional or mental selves struggle. With doing thesang i mean yeah. I know that that that theresonates for sure absolutely yeah, i'm not sure, i'm not sure whatelse to add to that a yeah that that definitely resonates with me. A lot o well only think that was that was thati haven't had anybody do a reading for me since, oh my god, i don't even knowthe last time was so. Thank you so much. I. We reallyappreciate that, and i know that most folks are listening here, but i didjust want to hold up these three, so you can sort of see them together andall four and send them to you as well, so you have it. I love the. I love the art work that i love. How itlooks you know, like that hand, drawn...

...pencil, look yeah, it's reallybeautiful. I love it. It looks great fantastic. So, let's, let's, let's take one stepback a little bit, because i did want to bring this up because i feel remissif i didn't a little bit into the into the to the broadway side of things. Iwant to talk about the pink tank, a yeah, i'd, love to know more about thebank danger people for other people, people listening or watching to know alittle bit more about the pink tank and what that is. So what is the pink tank?Thank you for asking so in full disclosure. The pink tank is currentlyon pause because, as you said, there's a lot of things happening and it waslike. You know what. What is something that i can pull back from myself to alittle. But the pink tank is a group of women who we started meeting after thevery first women's day on broad bo, the second women's day on broadway, whichdid make theatric all have put on for the industry for some panels andconversations about you know what's happening in the broadway industry andhow it affects women. And so we started gathering just to have some wine andsort of decompress and talk about the day. And we found that it was somethingthat we all kind of needed and wanted. And so we began to gather every month.Do you hold support, hold space for and support each other, and it was an early sort of prerecognition of what you and i talked about, of bringing all the facets or ofourselves to everything that we do, and so it was a lot about integrating boththe personal and the professional and moving through the world, because,ultimately, we can't they affect each other more than anyone whatever nowright, and this last year has taught us that too, with everyone's at home, zoomeetings and seeing you know kids and dogs and all the delivery guys showingall of the insanity that happens to. We all experience this. So why are wemoving through the world at work? Pretending that it's not happening, sothe pink tank was really an opportunity for majority, freelance or independentcontractor or consultant focus. Folks, you know were mostly either in abusiness side of the business or producers directors, writers few aremulti hyphen its and it was just an opportunity for us to come together andexplore where the personal and a professional are are intersecting andhow we can support each other in that way, and so we met physically in personhere in new york for about a year and then the pandemic at so we did a yearplus virtual meetings and this past june i actually or late may early june,decided that we were going to put it on paws until there was an opportunity forus to start to gather in person again, even though that was wardop happening.At the same time, it was just one thing that i didn't quite have the capacityto continue moving forward with it this time, but we got about thirty women allacross the country and world. Now we've got one who's over two over in europe,a couple out in la so it's been fun during the pandemic to be able toexpand our collective in our group, but yeah, so that the pink tank is is agreat great gathering and it will be again when we return well. I hope itgets to get back together. I mean obviously your availability and in busylife, not you know not withstanding, but hope. You're able to you know, getthat going again. I think it's great that you put something like thattogether. You know, i think a lot of people don't realize you know you thinkpeople think broadway and they think musicals and they think you know theythink it's got to. They don't realize, like even something that can sometimesbe. You know, considered flacking better word feminine in nature, still a very...

...guy driven me, it's entertainment, andthat yeah i mean you know you think about it. We have a running joke withone of my clients. We call the theater owners, the fivefamilies, so i've now started calling them licosabroadway. There are to be clear. There are threefamilies: three family owned organizations that run the majority ofthe broadcasters and then the few of the non profits on a few. More so you know, doesn't quite translate, butit does because these people are the gatekeepers. You know if the broad, ifyou can't get a theater for your broadway, show you don't have abroadway shop. So ultimately, the theater owners are the gatekeepers andthey're all pretty much old straight white dudes. You know most of theleadership in these organizations not hold them, but you know the majority ofthem are baby boomers they're, not even you know, like jenk that are cut in,like with some other fresher ideas. So you know we're just out o here doingwhat we can do to be a squeaky wheel, remind people thatthere are other people out here, squeak that wheel and then you you mentionedin we sovs on you're, on your in your biography of something called emily's, the broadwayterro yeah, i'm working on my own tero deck. That's a broadway tero deck! Sothat's something that is in process as well. It's development so like a broadwaist like broadway theme cards. Yes exactly, oh my god, i i want. I want toget one just just to have it, but yeah it's a there will be a companion bookthat goes along with it talking about why each of the characters was cast asthe part they were and how that card stare of manifest itself. My i guess,then i guess the question i have to follow that follow up on that is: isthe book of mormon involved in the death not so far see ye where the book of mormon falls intoa terra deck? That's just. I feel like that's what the guys at south parkwould have wanted. I'm not sure! That's just i love that idea. I lovethat idea of a broadway theme broadway. That's such a great idea, emily before we let you go here. Onething i do like to do with the guests when they come on. You know i spendthirty minutes to an hour, throwing questions at you like its darts at adark board. So i want to turn the turn. The reins back to you. Once again, eventhough you kind of did or- and do this already but give you a chance to ask meany two questions you want to ask, have you ever read tero before when i was practicing, it was apracticing wicken in college and all that i had a deck. Was the the celtic cross deck that everybodycan get books a million but yeah? That's the one that i had, and i readthat for i did that for a few years i still have it some it's packed in a boxsomewhere here in the house. I used to love him finish in packing in my houseyet, but yeah it's here somewhere in the house. Will you do a reading for yourself whenyou on packet? I will because you asked i will. I will do so awesome. So, as ifind it, i don't know what boxes there's a whole room in my house. Thatis just box. I believe it. I believe it when you come across it. You know i will let you i will i'll zoom callyou when i find it and we i'll do it for you a well emily mcgill,the broadway communications, pr tero, good lord, you do it all and you foundtime to sit down and talk with us for for a whilei, and i can't thank youenough for for coming on the show today.

Absolutely thank you so much for theopportunity. Is there anything you want anywhere. You want to direct people whoare watching or listening website social media. Whatever you. Where?Would you like to direct the people to learn that about you? You can follow me.Instagram is really the only social that i tend to care about. I have theothers, but i like instagram, it's my favor, so i'm at emily, an an n e mc g,emily an mcg on instagram and my website is emily, mc gill andentertainment and if you're interested in booking a terror reading, you cancertainly do that. We've got options for a single car, a three card or anhour, long, seven card pool, so whatever suits suits of folks preference. We have an option for you, fantastic as he guys head over checkercheck out instagram. Yes, the gram is only one that really did. I can get newmusic movie trailers and cat pictures in a single app. Where do you need inlife? Had nothing else, plan instagram to it's bout to salar and food isdegrade. I follow em ly on instagram check out our website. If you'reinterested in a terror in a terror card reading, we should you go head and bookher right away and emily we are going to we're going towe're going to bid you a do here and thank you once again. This was this isso much fun. Thank you on taking the time absolutely have a great day learna little bit about me in the process. That's fun, but o you guys enjoyed that member.Once again, this show is sponsored by pod. Decks go over to poddon, use thecottle to get ten percent off your order at check out. We do this everysingle month and we love we love having the people on, and we will do one againat next month as well and was, as always check out new episodes of thebasement. Lounge podcast, every single thursday with me and mike wells on themike and until next time, as always, is well run on take care by.

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