The Basement Lounge
The Basement Lounge

Season 0, Episode 5 · 1 year ago

Interview with Emily McGill | The VIP Table #5

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Everybody, welcome back to a new installment of the VIP table here at the Basement Lounge podcast. My name is Mike Shale. Be Your host again today and we've got a very special guest. You, guys are really going to enjoy. We're going to have some fun on the show. What reminds you, guys? This show is sponsored by pod decks. POD DEX is the number one way for you to supplement your podcasting game, whether you're a new be or a veteran. You get decks of cards with episode ideas, interview questions of all different types, as well as school merchandise like hats and tshirts. How immember to pod dexcom use the codetbl ten, that's tbl zero. Get Ten percent off your total purchase at check out, and I may or may not get a kickback. It is what it is. That being said, let's move on. Let's bring on our guest for this week. She is a Tarot card reader, Broadway Aficionado, all kinds that we're going to we're going to learn all about. I don't want I don't want to spoil anything right now. We're going to have a lot of fun with this person. Let's bring on Emily Miguel, emily macguil. Welcome to the VIP table. Thank you so much for coming on the show today. Thanks, Mike, Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it absolutely. You've got a background in theater, you've got a background in Tarot card reading, got a background off. We're going to we're going to go into this, this thing blind to get to know you fresh let's let's start off because I'm an old theater kid. MMM, I really want to talk about this Broadway stuff. I want to know, like where that started for you. where? where? Where are the acting bug first bite you? Oh Man, my parents put me in dancing school when I was three years old, two and a half, because you know, you need somewhere to get all that energy out. And when I was twelve I got hit by the bug, the stage bug for musical theater. And I grew up in Pittsburgh, so we I went to a conservatory there, you know, school, did it in college. Already knew that I didn't want to be a performer by the time I graduated from college, but I didn't really know that there were other options in the theater to have a job besides being on stage or being like on stage crew, right, and you move to New York and you find out there's an entire business ecosystem around this. There are people that work in marketing, advertising, general and company management and the day to day management of the show. You know, you have a publicity office, you've got the digital marketing team. You know, there are so many different people that it takes to put together a show. And I landed in a PR office and started doing Broadway pr and just absolutely fell in love with it. So I've been doing pr now I call it. Sorry, that's on my own and I thought I turned everything off. Okay, so I started doing pr for Broadway shows and I absolutely loved it and now I consider myself more of a communications consultant. I think that PR is one aspect of a much larger conversation about how we communicate with the world, what our ideas are, how we express ourselves, and artists and creatives always have these amazing, like crazy, abstract ideas and oftentimes struggle with how to communicate that information into the world, and so that's sort of where I come in on my pr communication side, especially working with people that are sort of at the intersection of technology and theater, looking to push forward what is possible. You know, this pandemic is that taught us that theater on the Internet is not as crazy of an idea as we once thought it was. And so, you know, working with people that are looking to now move into all kinds of different digital theatrical ideas. So...

...it's been really exciting, despite challenges of, you know, an entire industry being shut down over the last fifteen months. Yeah, it's been great. I've seen a lot of it, you know, because everybody who was stuck at home, you know, as a podcast or suddenly everybody was like, I want to start a podcast now. And but what was great was, and these were a thing before, was I've seeing so many scripted podcasts that were done as a fictional see. I was part of one myself, and so yef. Finding those new avenues to translate, to do a medium transfer different styles of Damas has been a lot of fun. And you mentioned that the importance of being the communications consulted. How the PRS one aspect. I think we see this in the film industry as well. People who are, you know, the layman's people don't. There's that there's that aspect of behind the scenes with with entertainment. People just don't understand when they hear that a movie made a lot of money but didn't turn a profit. And you know, they don't take into account things like advertising and communications and public relations and things that factor into that as well. So having that communications focus in the in the inn in the entertainment world like you do, do you find that it's kind of shaped, or maybe a tweaked your perspective on on theater in general? Absolutely, it's given me such a different perspective on entertainment period, you know, not just live events or live theater, but or live entertainment period. You know, I've worked on all kinds of different things in my career. Yes, I started in Broadway, but have had the opportunity to work on films and TV shows and streaming projects and HBO documentaries and I've worked with, you know, I worked once on the Nobel Peace Prize concert. I've worked with yeah, I've worked with mail strippers, like, not kidding, it's really run the GAMP, you know. So I mean literally no Bell Peace Prize concert and like a gay string quartet to mail strippers, you know, like it really goes far, which so we got going on this weekend. While I got to go plan a black tie thing for the for the Nobel Peace Corps, and then I'm hanging out with the with with with the black diamonds, Hollie love. No, yeah, magic men live. There was no magic. They were just and they were the kind as sweetest guys from Michigan that just happened to take their clothes off for a living. You know. But but it really, you're right, it does. It gives you a whole new perspective on what it takes to put something together. You know, we never really consider and I think film is probably the easiest way for most people to understand it. You hear that you know a film is being made, that it has been cast and it is being shot. You know, a good example that a lot of people were obsessing over were like these pictures that were coming of Lady Gaga and Adam driver off of this movie about, you know, Gucci, or I think it's Gucci, one of the designers where you know they're like in all this Italian luxury and everybody can't get enough of these photos. But you don't think about how long it took for whoever's idea was in the first place to make it. Did they have, like was the script written already? Was it a producer that had the first idea? Did it get optioned by a studio? You know, where, where did this process start? Who did it start with? There are so many different ways that projects can come to life and I think, as you said, in this pandemic it's been so amazing. You know, one of the things that I've been saying since the beginning is that this sort of desperation breeds inspiration and creativity. And at the beginning, when everyone just didn't know what to do with themselves, all the sudden, like you said, everyone started going well, I can do this and I can do that and I can do this. And I think we're going to find a really...

...interesting boom in the next probably two to three years of creative projects that's started during the pandemic and will now be percolating out into the world. So I'm really excited to see the the growth of the projects that were seated during these last fifteen months of challenge. Then we've already seen some aspects of that. I mean there was a I don't know if it's still on or not, but there was a TV show that was going to freeform or something that was about people living during the pandemic. One was an elderly couple, one was a couple that had just started dating, one was some newly weds and and you know, we've seen it with music. Is I mean the amount of the amount of music that's been coming out. Yep, that's this pandemic all great too, because what the people have to do other than sit around it and Ding, just write stuff. So has been has been flooring and we've seen, you know, like in law and order or something, they're having to show everybody wearing masks and how the court rooms have changed. I mean, they can't, they can't ignore it. It's a part, it's this will be talked about in history classes and twenty years history. Yes, yeah. So with with how how is this whole fiasco of the last year and a half affected you personally as far as like what you canse again with with the Taroor card readings, and which we'll get into in a little bit, and with the with the theater side of things. How is it? How is this all affected you? It really gave me an opportunity the pandemic allowed me to stop. I found myself sort of on a path that I didn't really mean to end up on. I was, you know, independent communications, consulted, working with clients, not really lit up as much as I had been by the work that I have been doing in the past, and so it really became an opportunity to pause and reflect. I also had covid like at the very beginning, you know, I'm in New York City. We shut down Broadway, shut down March twelve, March thirteen, you know, the rest of the city and is started following those marching orders and by the end of the weekend everything was shut down. The following weekend I got a positive covid test while I watched a friend of mine get married in Tennessee on Youtube, because I couldn't go to our wedding. I was, you know, and thank God I didn't, because I was covid positive. And so I spent some time just healing and reflecting and, you know, allowing my body to do what it needed to do to move through my system. I was very fortunate in that the majority of my symptoms didn't you know, I don't have I don't think have bit long covid that some people have had. My sense of smell and taste came back pretty quickly. You know, I have friends that are still doing since like training, you know, that have to do like physical therapy for their Smet sense of smell, which is like bonkers. But I was really lucky that none of that was part of my experience, but it did. It gave me a chance to say, okay, how did I get where I am and what do I want to do going forward? Do I want to stay in the theater, you know? And after George Floyd was murdered, there were so many systemic issues that have previously been existing for years and years and years and years, but we're finally brought more to the surface. And I do a lot of work with the Black Broadway community. To begin with, I'm a cohost of a monthly industry dance party called snob Sunday night on Broadway. That is it's so lit. We have to DJ's that are my partners and the music is just amazing and we have a great time dancing and just kind of blowing off steam as a community once a month. But I realized there was more I could be doing, so I started doing probono practices for melinated artists where they write their own press release and I then help them edit it and make sure that it still captures their voice and then I share it with my pretty sizeable media list...

...of Live Entertainment Theater folks and if anybody's interested, I'll connect that artist directly with that press person and say here you go, and now that artist can start to cultivate their own relationship with the press. And there have been some great things. You know, there was a an opera about black documentary about black opera singers that got a little mentioned in the New Yorker, you know, and like it. Things have really come of it for some of these folks, which has been really exciting, and that felt like a direct response to what was happening in the world. I felt like I can use my tools and my place and my ability in the world to step into this sort of new age as a bit of a leader and say no, there's more I can do. I'm so I'm such a big I don't say fan, but I'm fascinated by causality and I always throughout everything that's that's happened within this past year and a half everything with, you know, with George Floyd and and black lives matter, and I you know, you can't help, at least I can't help but look at like, had we not been in this pandemic, everybody stuck at home where there weren't as many distractions anymore? You know, how did that affect the response things that look in the mirror over the last fifteen months and and face what faced us? And some people have done that work and some people have chosen to start exploring themselves. You know, I've also been in therapy for seven years, so I think that, having done a lot of the work prior to the pandemic hitting, I was in a very privileged position that I had a lot of the tools that I needed to continue to have positive mental health throughout the process. But yeah, you're right. You know, we all have been sitting at home and saying, okay, we're in the world. Is this coming to me and how can I be active in making a difference, or choosing to bury our head in the sand? And that's some people's choices to right, and the world's going to keep spinning either way. We like to invite everyone along with us into the future, moving forward not, you know, getting back right. We're looking forward to what can come from all of this. But yeah, process I can you know, and it's weird, I'm famous for playing devil's advocate and, you know, trying to see all sides of an issue. So whatever I do, hear about or see those people who bury their head in the sand. You know, as somebody who is known for, you know, having a struggle with sensory overload and and you know with mental health and all that, there are times, and I also I work and I work in news media, so there are there are times where it's like yeah, it can be overwhelming and I can understand the urge to just just pretend it's not happening, because it can. It can be so overwhelming. But I also recognize, you know, the more that that does, in the grand scheme of things, kind of do more harm than good. But I also I know a lot of people like to initially say like Oh, if you're you know, if you're ignoring the issue, is whatever, you're part of the problems. Like not. I also feel like not everyone is equipped to, is as equipped to handle those issues, talking about them or otherwise, as other people might be, and that's it's hard to it's hard to walk that line sometimes, for sure. And I will say, you know, devil's advocate, your devil's advocate, and say that there are some people whose process is to ignore it until they feel prepared to deal with it and approach it and then they move through and that is how you know, that's their process as to how they move through things. I'm very much I have...

...a lot of those tendencies myself. You know, a lot of I will avoid, avoid, avoid, avoid, until I can't any longer and then all of a sudden it's like, well, I really have to deal with this or else I'm, you know, I'm going to have a bigger problem on my hands. But I think the pandemic has taught me in the last year that even my avoidance has changed. S Right, like the way I stick my head at this and it used to be, you know, like zoning out with Games on my phone, you know, smoke it a little weed and like laying in front of the TV and you know, yeah, sure, all of that is still in my life, but it's just the way that I do it. The feelings are allowed to come in a way that they don't necessarily feel like they're going to drown me the way they previously did. So, you know, I do see the value in having to move through your own process of I need to stick my head in the sand, and oftentimes it's fear based. Right. Also it's that I'm afraid that if I face whatever this thing is in front of me, I'm not going to survive. Like, even if it's an emotional or response, it feels like it is actually threatening your life. And you know how I mean. I'm no mental health practitioner in any way, shame or warm, let me make that very clear. But I've done a lot of this work myself and it has become really helpful to me to explore it that way, and I think that's also important too. Is I all at the same time, I have a heart, you know. I don't want when someone says they need to or I you seeving some as it's the evidence somebody having to, you know, stick their head in the sand. I'm going to keep you in that metaphor because it's great. I also look at it as I don't want them to be taking on an issue if they're not ready. You know, you want someone to be at their best to take on a serious issue. Otherwise they're probably going to make it to make it worse. So if someone says, Hey, I can't deal with this right now, I'm a come back to it later, you have to kind of, you know, given the benefit of the doubt and trust that when they do they'll be in a place where when that, when they do handle it, it'll actually be effective correct. Yeah, yeah, actually a really great segue. I don't know, there are other things, but into the Tarot, because Tarot has helped my mental health as well. I was initially introduced to it by my therapist. Oh really, yeah, she was the one I would start pulling cards with her in a session from time to time if I didn't know how to move forward with something or had a question about something, we'd pull a card and about I was probably for five years ago now. I started looking to add a daily practice to my life and she suggested I pull a card and I didn't own any decks, so I got downloaded an APP on my phone and I started learning that way. Is it the is it the golden the Golden Taro APP? No, I use last oh shows and Tarot APP, which is, if you're familiar with wild, wild country, which was in Netflix documentary about it, a group in Oregon in the s that was on a commune. It has problems to the community. Their Guru is oh show. It is the one and the same oh show, excellent Tarot deck, but today we're going to use one called the wild known, which is by Kim Carnes, and all of the imagery in this are is all animal based. So there are no people representat, which I really like. That's really cool. That's actually very clever. Yeah, let's go ahead. Let's go aheadlet's transition into talking about your experience and practice with Tarot. I was, I was. I was a practicing wicken for brief number of years during my during my post Catholic religious exploration, which the most of US Catholics. Yeah,...

...either go with her pagan, after one extreme to the next, but it and and and I still have many friends who still practice. I I've moved on, but I still do. I have the Golden Taro APP on my on my phone. It's become kind of a I do think it's important for a person to have a ritual of some kind, and that's that. That's mine. That and watching the super bowl every year because it's on a Sunday, so at least I'm trying. And Yeah, it's has so we're so you mentioned that your therapist is the one that introduced you to all this. Yeah, my therapist was. I started going to therapy after my grandmother passed away in the summer of two thousand and fourteen. Mean and you know most people have to sort of like dating, try a few different people before it works out, but I really looked out the first therapist I went to. I'm still with her seven years later and actually, if you're like hey, I think you're practicing other modalities now, I think we can pull back a little fit those like okay, great, like that's my amazing but she is. You know, I used to call her my white witch or my like magical spirit guide in many ways, because she really did open my eyes to spirituality and and creating my own practice. You know, I don't really label myself in any one way, shape or form, other than I will often say I'm a witch because I think that that has it's a it could be a loaded word for a lot of people, but the thing that I like about it is that it allows me to have a personal practice that's truly personal. You know that some things that even my best friend to she and I do a lot of things together. We have different ways of practicing our own spirituality, our personal experience with our highest powers, our spirit guides, our ancestors. So, yeah, she's my therapist really allowed me to open the door to this exploration and that was that's been going on seven years now. That's rule. That, that's you know, I st staying on to everything, but also, like with with the medal all thing like, yeah, I tried therapy. It wasn't for me, but I also had a really difficult, not fun experience with it. So it's one of those it's like, I'm good, but it's glad. I'm glad that it's that it's been working well for you, that you were able to find someone that you connected really well with and that, through that, you were introduced to something that's become a major part of your life now. And how of you, how have you worked, you know, not just through therapy, but you've now got on to incorporate this more into your to your life at large as well. Absolutely. You know, I like to say that Tarot is there are a few different ways to express it, but it's a visual or external expression of information that we hold within ourselves. So it's information that we have in our heart and our spirit and our gut, but has it. Going back to the communications, right, people that don't know necessarily how to express the thing to the rest of the world. The Tarot, to me, it's it is like a communication. It's been built in it. It visually or physically expresses something within us that we haven't quite wrapped our heads around or we don't know how to articulate or we don't know how to verbalize, we don't know necessarily how to access this internal information. And then the cards show up and they just show us. They show us what, what it is that we're either grappling with or maybe we have a question specifically about something, a way forward, and so the Tarot, you know. So it's I love had these conversations because they're so organic, you know, communication, mental...

...health, Tarot, to me, it's all wrapped up in the same thing. That that's a thing, something that a lot of people miss out on, is finding ways to take all these aspects of your life and find a way to kind of make them sync up with each other. Like you mentioned that, the communication and the therapy, the Taro and all that, in the ways that they could be mutually beneficial to each other. Absolutely, and when you ask earlier about, you know, what the pandemic like, my experience during a pandemic. Ultimately, it was about polishing the other facets of myself besides Broadway theater, this one thing that had always sort of dominated my life, you know, for almost thirty odd years, and all the sudden now I'm welcoming in every aspect of myself to everything that I'm doing. You know, I mean advertising meetings for a holiday show that I'm going to be announcing this summer. It's going to be a great little off Broadway show, and technology keeps getting screwed up and I'm not embarrassed to say, well, mercury still in retrograde, so we should have been in the middle of an off Broadway advertising meeting. I'm talking about my re Retro Graate and like there's no reason I should be, but there's also no reason I shouldn't be, because if we can't get our technology to work, don't freak out about it, folks. This is going to happen three times a year for six to seven weeks, like catch just the stars. That's how it happened. So, you know, I think that, as you say, bringing all of the facets, all of the aspects to ourself, of ourselves to every table, that were, whether we're welcome to the table or we're showing up and flipping the table. You know, it's important to bring all of us to every one of those moments. I love the idea flipping at table. I don't know why, it's just I love it. Just show up and just flip the table over. We're not doing this this way anymore, precisely because that's a lot of what the last years offered us to we've seen a lot of systems instructures that don't work. So let's start flipping the tables and seeing what underneath and how we can excavate it and find some pieces to build a new table. So before we before we get to the the main event, as it were, we're going to do a Tara reading on the show here. I'm going to read from some cards of my own through our our pod decks, APP which they have a special deck called the future. Freaks me out and I thought this was a good one for for what we're going to do her. These are just some fun, casual questions that you guys can get on the pod decks APP. Check it out right now. Start things off. Let's go with what do you think people will rebelt bell against in the future? What will people rebel against? Well, teenagers are always going to rebel against their parents, so I mean that's not going to change. I mean rather not even teenagers. Humans are always going to rebel against their against the systems and structures and things that they feel don't suit them or that they know better, you know. And so I think that we're going to continue to see things that haven't been working being tested and and rebelled against and pushed against until they top all that we can create something that that does work. Yeah, that's yeah, a lot of my I look back on a lot of the mistakes and mistakes decisions I've made in life and ninety nine percent of them were at the sole purpose of pissing off my parents, you know. I mean it got engaged at nineteen because I figured it would piss my parents off. So, yeah, didn't work out, but it's fine. What is one thing you worry about when it comes to your future? Who Only one plan. It's safe for one. If you got more, go...

...nuts. Ultimately, I think that it is are we have. I'm worried about how working contributing to speeding up our floating rock in the universe's death. You know I mean, I've been watching there's a series on discovery plus called how the universe works. You know, it's probably been on TV for I don't know, ten years, maybe more, I'm not sure. I have just learned about it and I've been binging this show learning literally about how things in the universe work, starting with the Big Bang and moving all the way through, you know, supernovas, and it's like they have these fear let the theoretical physics professors and like these people that do all this crazy stuff with science and the universe and talking about subatomic particles and things. And so I'm less worried about things because I know we're all connected and there's so much more beyond us and beyond, you know, this liver of time that we're living in. But it's still a little scary to think about how we're progressing our own decline. Yeah, I get it. I my youngest, my youngest brother, is very environmentally conscious, very green and before we started college he was starting to try to encourage us all to do different things. I was living with everybody at the time and so like little things like we started using glass containers instead of plastic ones, and now I'm I'm hooked. Now I'm like they're Oh my God, that's are so they don't get that Weird Orange Tint on that when you hold spaghetti sauce on in them. For one, they're easier to clean and better in the fridge. They make your leftovers a little more inviting. You're like, Oh, I actually think I want to eat those leftovers because they look good on those cut glass containers. So you have fine China for your leftovers. It's fantastic, and so I love those. You know, I become a lot more big on recycling. I bought, like I just bought my house last fall. Needed a lawn mower, bought an electric one, and even last night, you know, it was fourth of July last night and driving around coming home from work when the fires going off, all that was going through my mind was like all these explosions of got to be terrible for the environment. All this crab in ears got to be so bad for the environment. Yeah, it's look, I always go back to me. Okay, look at us in New York City. This week we had a heat wave and we got an emergency alert on our cell phones, like it was an amber alert, saying please turn off your big appliances and your air conditioners, and it's like just me, did you turn off Times Square? I live and I live in Ohio. We get in southeast Ohio, we southwest. We get those a lot too with they'll say, like, you know, they'll let us though. You know, pollution levels, heat levels, are going to be this like, don't go out and drive your car unless you have to, like especially, you know, we're in such an automotive town. So thought I heard that southwest. Yeah, I'll be all over HIVER. But Bard, so I heard a little of that. Okay, I'll see. was born an Erie, so I can hear it. I can hear it. Yeah, but yeah, like I remember just driving home last night, I was just like all this is, this is got to be so bad for the Advic we start giving a crap. Thanks, little bro Exactly. I always got. I just I always default to that because, you know, whenever people will because there are those out who was like, why do you care so much? I default to the quote from from Guardians of the galaxy. Why do you care so much about the galaxy? Because I'm one of the idiots who lives here right. Why do I care as much about the planet? Because I live...

...on it, you know. Yeah, so our last one I want to get to and then we're going to we're going to we're going to get to this this terror reading. What is something you would could, if you could purge one thing from your life to improve your future, what would it be? Oh Gosh, self doubt and Imposter Syndrome. Oh Yeah, because that to me, they're one of the same. So, you know, it's it's the any sort of old stories that don't actually have truth to them that have caused me to underquest myself in all kinds of different ways that I probably don't even know about, you know, I haven't even become aware of. But part of my journey through therapy has been incredible self awareness and so, you know, I think I've done a really good job in eliminating a lot of that self down and Conster Syndrome, but it certainly comes up again. You know, even earlier this year when I started working on this new show that's coming in this falls, like am I am I qualified to do this? It's like, but you've got twenty Broadway shows on your resume. You're fine, like, you'll figure it out, even if you don't know how to do it, you'll figure it out, you know. But that there was a really deep moment of Oh my God, I haven't I haven't done this in a year and a half more. It's been, you know, many years since I've worked off Broadway. Oh my gosh, what am I doing here? You know, but what are any of US doing here? We're all making it up as we go along. Yeah, I'm just trying to make sure I have cleaned underwear every single day. That's all I care about, right, all right. So, and we're we'll wrap some stuff up in a bit at first. I'm excited to do this because I haven't done had anybody do this for me in a long time. So, emily, Emily's gonna do a Tarot Card reading here on the show for us. So let's let's get in with this. I will let you do go. You take the reins. You know, you know what to die from here. So we're going to do a three card pool today. For those that are not familiar with the Tarot deck, I apologize for the shuffling. There be a little bit of that you'll here. But also I want to give you a quick rundown all terra deck and set up. So there are two halves of the deck, the major Arcana and the minor, and halves are well, that's aness not because there are two parts exactly. The major Arcana are our magic cards. When they show up we want to pay extra special attention to them. They also correspond to the human souls evolution through enlightenment. So it starts with the fool, which is our zero card, all the way up through the world, which is card number S. There are twenty two of them, and the fool is very much sort of in a way, we go very and we're off, you know, yellow brick road, very fresh energy at the very beginning of a journey, and it's sort of cycles through twice right. We have two, two or three moments in the deck where, if you know, things might feel like they are really challenging and then we get another sort of uplifting card coming after it. So the major urconom moves through that human souls evolution. The minor Arcana is set up much like a traditional playing deck. We have four suits as through ten. The biggest differences we have for court cards instead of three. So usually it will be a king and a Queen and either a night and a page or prince and a princess. This particular deck uses the traditional family structure of mother, father, son and daughter. And, as I said, this is the wild kno own which is by Kim cars and uses all animal imagery instead of humans in all of it. So they're really beautiful cards and I didn't know if there was anything in particular you wanted to explore today or if you wanted to do a general reading. Well, you know, I'd love to...

...do a general reading. It's okay, sample, great. So the first thing you're going to do is cut the cards, so I'm going to flip through them and you're going to tell me when to stop. Okay, stop, all right. So one of my favorite three card readings is what will help you, what will hinder you and what is your unrealized or untapped potential? Okay, and so that's what we're going to do today. I love it. Yeah, so I will explain more if as the card specifically come up. But for anyone that's listening and is curious about the Tarot or about a reading, you can, you know, find Google it, look online. I mean there are so many different people practicing it's not hard to find somebody either near you or doing virtual readings, and you can also learn about the cards themselves, what the different meanings are, things like that. So if any of these cards that come up right today resonate with you, I encourage you to go do a Google and see see what see what it says. You have google machines in your pockets folk, everywhere. You're using one to listen to this multitask. All right, so we're ready for the first one. Absolutely right. So this is what will help you. Oh, the ten of cups. So remember I said the four suits have their four different you know, like a traditional plane. That so our four suits also correspond to the four elements. So our wands are our fire, that's our creativity, our passion, our drive. Cups are our emotions, are feelings, that's water. Swords our air, which is intellect, mental ability, communication, knowledge like a book knowledge. And then finally, pinacles or discs are our earth. And that is our physical, ar material, art, manifest. And so here we have the ten of Cups and the ace through ten cards, similarly to the major our CONNA, sort of correspond to like a journey in life, right. We started the aces like very new energy and the ten is very full energy, and the ten of Cups often times is saying to us, like your it's sort of like a full heart. Your Cup is full, right, and so this is saying what will help you is that your cup is already full. The whatever emotional experiences you might have, you know, people might try and slash your splash the things out of Your Cup, but ultimately your cup is always full because it's yours and you choose that. Okay, this is I love this card. I mean the colors are so beautiful. You see that it's sort of got a we a Web that's been woven of these of these cups all together in this sort of rainbow pattern. It's really, really beautiful and when you feel into it, I'm curious if there's anything that's resonating for you. Typically, when I hear the phrase you know, you know Your Cup is full, a lot of times what I think I feel is I like to take on a million different things. I'm a project heavy guy. I love to stay busy. Yeah, so what I'm what I'm what I'm taking from this is is it might be time to start cutting back a little bit. MM. That's kind of what I'm taking from this little is. I've guessed between this and the job and doing stand up and writing, directing things like that, it's like, okay, maybe it's time to scale back a little bit. So I did have to just do that with my budget too, because houses are expensive. Yeah, fine, to write this is this is our cups, this is our emotional so this is this is our feelings, this is our heart,...

...this is what is happening. So while, yes, that might correspond to how your heart moves through the world with all the different projects, you know, because I can guess simply by our connection and communication in this episode today, that when you are involved in something, you do put your whole heart into it, and so that's probably what it's saying to you. Is. You know, if you're getting this feeling of I need to pull back from some of these things that I'm doing, maybe it's that you need to pull your heart back from it a little bit. You can still be involved, you can still, you know, be a participant, but maybe you're not the leader, maybe you're not a hundred percent in the pool that day. You're just like, you know, swinging your legs off the side, that it's not always up to you to carry the bucket for everybody else's feelings. That makes a lot of sense actually. HMM, there's a lot of sense. Yeah, they I tend to be the I tend to be the everyone's shoulder to cry on. Always have been my whole life. So, yeah, yeah, and I think what this is saying is, like what will help you is the remembering, like your your own shoulder to cry on first and foremost, and without that permission for yourself and that focus on yourself, in that sense, like you're not going to be able to support any of the people that you love. It's love of sense. I'm moving and moving forward. All right, a lot of sense. All right, next one. Yeah, so this is what will hinder you. Oh, we have strength. So strength is one of our major iconic cards and it is card number in this deck. Is Eleven, strength and justice, or sometimes inverted, so you might find one is eight and the other ones eleven. In different decks. So in this deck strength is is eleven and that comes a little more than halfway through our major arcount. Well, I guess it is about the halfway point of our major Arcona. You know, it's a twelve card. So this is moving through this journey of the soul's evolution. And if you're able to watch on video, you'll see that this is upside down. If not, I just told you, and oftentimes when people read Tarot and they see this, that it's called a reversal or an inversion. Folks will oftentimes read this as the negative interpretation or, you know, the lower vibe interpretation of a card. I personally read every card as though it has the entire spectrum of its meaning, no matter if it's upright or reversed. I like to read reversals as an internal term interpretation of this person external right. So we were just talking about this kind of puffs and how it deals with everybody sort of else around you as well. This strength, I think, ties into that, because this is saying like what will hinder you is like not holding the strength yourself, within yourself, the not remembering that you have that internal strength. I mean this is the imagery of this card is so beautiful. It's a lion, I love it, with an infinity symbol over its third eye. The Sun is shining down on it. It looks like it's a Leo car, you know, it looks like it's like the absolute astrological and Leo Interpretation. There is a rose in the in the mouth of the lion. We can see that it is, you know, he's holding it very gently, very very gently, and it's we don't know if there are thorns or not, but we can see it's a lion with the rose in its mouth, and so it's you know, I think this is saying too we are, as you're talking about being the shoulder for everyone...

...else and having an over full plate and like this, maybe this is like what will hinder you, is like not remembering your own strength and remembering that strength isn't always crushing. Sometimes strength is really delicate. That's the the rose in the mouth is what always makes me think of that. That the strength is. Strength can be really delicate. You know, it's not always a crushing power and and I'm trying to like tap in a little eat more deeply, but what is this saying for you? What are you getting? I mean for me, you know, I we we've talked a lot about mental health today on the show. I mean, you know, Selfesteem, selfconfidence, is always been a big struggle of mine. You know, I grew up in the s were being geeky and overweight wasn't okay. So that's that's shaped a lot of you know I would be doing. I wouldn't do stand up if everything was holly and jolly. I do stand up because everything, you know, there are times where I feel like everything sucks. So absolutely, you know, definitely has been my biggest my biggest to red use the word hindrance throughout life has always been looking inward myself, and this is I think this is saying like you have the strength to do it, and not doing it might be the hindrance. Okay, we kind of goes back to the head in the same thing. Right, it's like you're you're not going to do it until you're ready, but you're never going to feel like you're ready, right. You know, some people sometimes it's a matter of this thing that has served me for so long really does no longer feel good, like really does not feel good anymore. You know, whether it's something like smoking or eating sugar or, you know whatever, all the wine we would have, whatever it is. I mean it can be anything. It can be binging shows, you playing games on our phone, it can be sex, like whatever the thing is that helps us to sort of turn off those feeling receptors because it feels like it is too much like this, I think is saying reminding you like you have the strength to turn them back on and move through it. Okay, I like that. It is a weird thing to say, but now I like that. I like that. I like that inside I like that interpretation a lot. I think that definitely speaks to a lot of things I struggle with internally on a day to day basis, especially. Yeah, all right, I'm ready for what years your unrealized, UN tabbed potential. I'm hoping it's like the chosen one to bring down the dark side. But yes, let's let's do this. Well, this is the five Pentacles, which is looks like it's a dying rose, and so remember, our pentacles are physical. I manifest our earth, and this is the five. So it's about halfway through and this is about you know, to me it's like it's almost like tending your garden right it's taking off the dead leaves and so that the plant can focus its energy on growing and moving forward. And I think this literally is the this is like the physical manifestation of what we just said about the things that no longer feel good and letting go of that Shit. You know, when it doesn't feel good anymore, it doesn't serve you, then why do we keep doing it? Because it...

...was comfort it was comforting at one point, or it felt like it kept us safe at one point, and it probably did, for wherever we were in the world, through our experienced, through the programming that have been given to us, you know, through society and our families and everybody just kind of trying to do their best. But still not going to mean you know, we're all out here planning like a bunch of idiots on a rock floating in the middle world, you know, the universe, like none of us really know what we're doing. But dropping the shit that doesn't serve US anymore, like that's how we we get to tap into our real potential now makes a lot of sense, I think for myself. I think a lot of people are going to wait to this do but for myself, especially like there. I I get attached to things and people a little too easily. It's and I tend to your sign. I'm a Capitorn, UH Huh. But you probably have like a your rise saying is probably like cancer, Pisces or something maybe. Do you know? I've no idea. Yeah, you feel like you have that like very watery energy with you as well. I could be very wrong, though, but for me, like I know, I tend to like I just I don't like to let stuff go. Sure, and I I could blame that would be an Irish too. But yeah, I tend to just, I I add emotional value to let me like everything, m everything's an emotional experience for me. So you have to have some Pisces are cancer and there somewhere. Good Day. But yeah, so true, Mike, because when you are moving through the world, you're experiencing things through your like fixed earth. Cancer. It's a fixed right, isn't it? I don't know, I'm my astrology is not as strong as my Tarot I, but you know, you're moving through that very earthy sign and that's your son sign. That's how you move through the world. You're rising is oftentimes how other people see you move through the world, but that's that's very common, you know. And for all of us to write, not just for for Capriforns, that for all of us to find something and we're like, Oh gosh, thank goodness, this works, this is the thing, this is the magic bullet. And then, you know, maybe it is for a while, but then we grow and change and evolve ourselves, you know, I mean whether it's an emotional evolution and mental evolution. Physically, none of us are the same literals, like cell being that we were even, you know what, like five years ago. I mean, ourselves are constantly changing and evolving and dying and building new ones. So our physical form is doing it anyway, shedding that which no longer serves us, but our spiritual, our emotional, our mental selves struggle with doing the same. I mean you know that. That that that that resonates for sure, absolutely. Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure what else to add to that now. Yeah, that definitely resonates with me a lot. Cool. Well, only thank that was that was that I haven't had anybody do a reading for me since, Oh my God, I don't even know the last time was. So thank you so much. I really appreciate that and I know that most folks are listening here, but I did just want to hold up these threes you could sort of see them together, and I'll, course here and send them to you as well. So you have it. I love the I love the artwork that. I love how it looks, you know, like that hand drawn pencil look. Yeah, it's really beautiful. I...

...love it. It looks great, fantastic. So let's let's let's take one step back a little bit, because I did want to bring this up because I'd feel Remissi if I didn't a little bit into the into the Broadway side of things. I want to talk about the pink tank. Okay, yeah, I'd love to know more about the pink tank. Of People, for other people, people listening or watching, to know a little bit more about the pink tank and what that is. So what is the pink tank? Thank you for asking. So, in full disclosure, the pink tank is currently on pause because, as you said, there's a lot of things happening and it was like, you know what, what is something that I can pull back from myself a little bit. But the pink tank is a group of women who we started meeting after the very first women's Day on broad both the second women's Day on Broadway, which did think theatrical has put on for the industry, for some panels and conversations about, you know, what's happening in the Broadway Industry and how it affects women, and so we started gathering just to have some wine and sort of decompressed and talk about the day, and we found that it was something that we all kind of needed and wanted, and so we began to gather every month to hold support, hold space for and support each other, and it was an early sort of pretty recognition of what you and I talked about, of bringing all the facets our of ourselves, that evering that we do, and so it was a lot about integrating both a personal and the professional and moving through the world because ultimately we can't. They they affect each other more than anyone whatever know right, and this last year has taught us that too, with everyone's at home zoom meetings and seeing, you know, kids and dogs and all the delivery guys showing to all of the insanity that happens, and we all experience this. So why are we moving through the world at work pretending that it's not happening. So the pain tank was really an opportunity for majority freelance or independent contractor or consultant focus folks. You know, we're mostly either in the business side of the business or producers, directors, writers, fewer multihyphinits, and it was just an opportunity for us to come together and explore where the personal and the professional or are intersecting and how we can support each other in that way. And so we met physically in person here in New York for about a year and then the pandemic hit. So we did a year plus virtual meetings and this past June, I actually, or late May, early June, decided that we were going to put it on pause until there was an opportunity for us to start to gather in person again, even though that was sort of happening at the same time. It was just one thing that I didn't quite have the capacity to continue moving forward with at this time. But we got about thirty women all across the country and world. Now we've got one who's over two over in Europe, but a couple out in la so it's been fun during the pandemic to be able to expand our collective in our group. But yeah, so that the pink tank is is a great, great gathering, and it will be again when we returned. Well, I hope it gets to get back together. I mean, obviously your availability and busy life not, you know, notwithstanding, but hope you're able to, you know, get that going again. I think it's great that you put something like that together. You know, think a lot of people don't realize. You know, you think when people think Broadway and they think musicals and they think, you know, they think it's got a they don't realize like even something that can sometimes be, you know, considered, flack of a better word, feminine and nature still a very guy driven. You means entertainment. And...

Yeah, I mean, you know, you think about it. We have a running joke with one of my clients. We call the theater owners the five families, so I've now started calling them the Costa Broadway. There are, to be clear, there are three families, three family owned organizations that run the majority of the Broadway theaters, and then a few of the nonprofits own a few more. So, you know, doesn't quite translate, but it does because these people are the gatekeepers. You know, if the broad if you can't get a theater for your Broadway show, you don't have a Broadway show. So ultimately the theater owners are the gatekeepers, and they're all pretty much old, straight white dudes. You know, most of the leadership in these organizations, not all of them, but you know the majority of them are baby boomers. They're not even you know, like Gen x that are kept in like with some other pressure ideas. So you know, we're just out here doing what we can do to be a squeaky wheel, remind people that there are other people out here squeak that wheel. And then you you mentioned in some one you're on your in your biography of something called Emily's the Broadway Tarot. Yeah, I'm working on my own Tarot deck. That's a Broadway Tarot decks. So that's something that is in process as well. It's in development. So like a Broadway, like Broadway. THEM CARDS? Yes, exactly. Oh my God, I want to get one just to have it. Yeah, with it there will be a companion book that goes along with it, talking about why each of the characters was cast as the cart they were and how that card sort of manifest itself. My I guess. I guess the question I have to follow that follow up on that is, is the book of Mormon involved in the death? Not so far. You know, see where the book of Mormon falls into a Tarout deck. That's just I feel like that's what the guys at South Park would have wanted. No, I'm not sure. That's just I love that idea. I love that idea of a Broadway theme Broadway. That's such a great idea. Emily. Before we let you go here, one thing I do like to do with with the guests when they come on. You know, I spent thirty minutes to an hour throwing questions at you like it's darts at a dartboard. So I want to turn the turn the reins back to you once again, even though you kind of did are do this already, but give you a chance to ask me any two questions you want to ask. Have you ever read Tarot before? When I was practicing, was a practicing Wigan in college, and all that I had a deck was the celt across deck that everybody can get. It books a million, but yeah, that's the one that I had and I read that for I did that for a few years. I still have it some it's packed in a box somewhere here in the house. I still haven't finish the packing in my house yet, but yeah, it's here, somewhere in the house. Will you do a reading for yourself when you unpack it? I will, because you asked I will. I will do so. Awesome. So as I find it. I don't know what boxes there's a whole room of my house that is just boxing. It's believe it, I believe it. Come on, when you come across it, you know I will let you. I will, I'll zoom call you when I find it and we'll, we'll, I'll do it for you. Well, emily mcguild's Broadway Communications Pr Tarot, good Lord, you do it all and you found time to sit down and talk with us for for a while and I can't thank you enough for for coming on the show today.

Absolutely thank you so much for the opportunity. Is there anything you want anywhere you want to direct people who are watching or listening? Website, social media, whatever you where would you like to direct the people to to learn about you? You can follow me. INSTAGRAM is really the only social that I tend to care about. I have the others, but I like instagram. It's my favor. So I'm at Emily and Anne MCG, emily and MCG, on Instagram, and my website is emily McGill entertainment, and if you're interested in booking a terror reading, you can certainly do that. We've got options for a single car, a three card or an hour long seven card pull. So whatever suits suits of folks preference, we have an option for you. Fantastic. Makes you guys head over check or check out instagram. Yeah, instagram is only one that really did. I can get new music, movie trailers and cat pictures in a single APP morning. Need in life. May Have nothing else. Plan instagram too, it's back to seller and food instagram. Well, deep, it's a check. Follow Emily on Instagram, check out our website. If you're interested in a terror in a tarror card reading, Michu, you go ahead and book her right away. And Emily, we are going to we are going to, we're going to bid you ad here and thank you once again. This was this was so much fun. Thank you for taking the time. Absolutely have a great day. Learned a little bit about me and the process. That was fun Um, but you guys enjoyed that. member. Once again, the show is sponsored by pod decks. Go over to pod dexcom use the codetbl ten to get ten percent off your order at check out. We do this every single month and we love we love having the people on and we will do one again at next month as well, and all is as always. Check out new episodes of the basement launch podcast every single Thursday with me and Mike Wells on the MIC. And until next time, as always. Well, rock on, take care.

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